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C1a1r319

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Hi, I'm new on here so apologies for any mistakes.
I am a type 1 diabetic using the pump and I take 2 x 500mg Metformin XR a day. I also have PCOS.
I started a very low carb diet a month ago. This is generally below 50g carbs a day. Before I started this my Basals were fine and give or take a few my bloods were in a good range mostly. Since starting this diet my Basals have increased (I haven't done a basal test, just increased) I'm continuously correcting and rarely below 10.0 mmol/l (180mg/dl)
My question is do you have to take insulin for protein, if so what is the amount e.g 1u/10g.
I'm doing this to lose weight, but I haven't lost any due to the fact my glucose are continuously high and I'm putting more and more insulin in me :(
 
Hi C1a1r319

I am on about 30g carbs per day and I need to bolus for protein at about 50%. My basal went down by about 20% when I switched to low-carb, so I wonder if you are covering your protein with your basal. A quick basal test would be to see if your BGs are level overnight.
 
l am t2 so insulin wise no help but diet wise am a lchf and about eat about 30g carb a day.

Please give us an idea of your meals.
lt could be you are not eating enough fat.
Protein wise the advice is 1gram/kg body weight.
 
robert72 said:
Hi C1a1r319

I am on about 30g carbs per day and I need to bolus for protein at about 50%. My basal went down by about 20% when I switched to low-carb, so I wonder if you are covering your protein with your basal. A quick basal test would be to see if your BGs are level overnight.
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What do you mean 50%? Like 30g protein so 1.5u? Or 1u for 20g?
Claire
 
Mud Island Dweller said:
l am t2 so insulin wise no help but diet wise am a lchf and about eat about 30g carb a day.

Please give us an idea of your meals.
lt could be you are not eating enough fat.
Protein wise the advice is 1gram/kg body weight.
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Eggs bacon cooked in butter with mushrooms and 1 tomatoe

Tuna with full fat mayo and sour cream with salad

Steak with mushroom sauce made with cream

Usually have full fat cheese most days, never eat lean meat. As I'm trying to get 60% fat 30% prot 10% carbs
 
Also bear in mind that protein breaks down more slowly than carbs, so you may need to bolus a bit later or do a dual wave (or whatever it is with pumps)
 
My blood sugar are rarely below 14 when I check :( it's confusing me because my nurse said nothing effects it apart from crabs.im from uk and I have noticed that the whole protein effecting blood glucose isn't commonly spoken about, but for me there is a big spike with protein if I don't eat carbs.
 
robert72 said:
Also bear in mind that protein breaks down more slowly than carbs, so you may need to bolus a bit later or do a dual wave (or whatever it is with pumps)
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Ok I will try this. I guess it's just a case of experimenting. Would be so much easier is I wasn't diabetic.
I'm trying toget into ketosis... (Not ketoacidosis) not working with glucose high all the time
 
C1a1r319 said:
My blood sugar are rarely below 14 when I check :( it's confusing me because my nurse said nothing effects it apart from crabs.im from uk and I have noticed that the whole protein effecting blood glucose isn't commonly spoken about, but for me there is a big spike with protein if I don't eat carbs.
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The gluconoegenesis from protein seems to apply more if you are below 50g carbs per day
 
C1a1r319 said:
Ok I will try this. I guess it's just a case of experimenting. Would be so much easier is I wasn't diabetic.
I'm trying toget into ketosis... (Not ketoacidosis) not working with glucose high all the time
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It would be worth upping your fat and lowering protein. I'm on 75% fat, 20% protein and 5% carbs
 
robert72 said:
It would be with upping your fat and lowering protein. I'm on 75% fat, 20% protein and 5% carbs
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Oh... I wasn't aware of that. The fatty food is actually what I enjoy more than the protein so that wouldn't be too hard for me. It's just difficult watching the protein as well ad the carbs...
robert72 said:
It would be worth upping your fat and lowering protein. I'm on 75% fat, 20% protein and 5% carbs
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robert72 said:
Do you use myfitnesspal to keep track of your nutrition?
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Yes ... I put the new percentages in the goals bit on the app. It's a fantastic app for all that. My calories are 1500 so it's not many carbs with that percentage. I will just try to stay under 40, but lower my protein and in increase fat.
Don't really know what to eat because I know cheese has protein as well as fat. I will get fattier meats too.
 
C1a1r319 said:
Hi, I'm new on here so apologies for any mistakes.
I am a type 1 diabetic using the pump and I take 2 x 500mg Metformin XR a day. I also have PCOS.
I started a very low carb diet a month ago. This is generally below 50g carbs a day. Before I started this my Basals were fine and give or take a few my bloods were in a good range mostly. Since starting this diet my Basals have increased (I haven't done a basal test, just increased) I'm continuously correcting and rarely below 10.0 mmol/l (180mg/dl)
My question is do you have to take insulin for protein, if so what is the amount e.g 1u/10g.
I'm doing this to lose weight, but I haven't lost any due to the fact my glucose are continuously high and I'm putting more and more insulin in me :(
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What I read is type 1s should never be on Metformin, and especially Metformin and insulin. Next is counting carbs is not that accurate, even for a type 1. Something you are eating may be spiking your blood sugar, but stress and things like allergies, etc. can also do it. I'm a nutritionist and I treat diabetics so the best advice I can give you is to get a book on the glycemic loads of foods. A great one is The Easy GL Diet Handbook by Fedon Alexander Lindberg. The only food that will raise your bloodsugar is carbs. Eating more protein or fiber should actually lower your need for insulin, This is true for a type 2 because protein causes your body to produce insulin, but if there is no carbohydrate, this can actually lower blood sugar. Not sure for type 1 but it may increase your need for insulin a bit. In America we are averaging less than 15 grams of protein a day, this is way too low and about the same for fiber.
 
robertconroy said:
What I read is type 1s should never be on Metformin, and especially Metformin and insulin. Next is counting carbs is not that accurate, even for a type 1. Something you are eating may be spiking your blood sugar, but stress and things like allergies, etc. can also do it. I'm a nutritionist and I treat diabetics so the best advice I can give you is to get a book on the glycemic loads of foods. A great one is The Easy GL Diet Handbook by Fedon Alexander Lindberg. The only food that will raise your bloodsugar is carbs. Eating more protein or fiber should actually lower your need for insulin, This is true for a type 2 because protein causes your body to produce insulin, but if there is no carbohydrate, this can actually lower blood sugar. Not sure for type 1 but it may increase your need for insulin a bit. In America we are averaging less than 15 grams of protein a day, this is way too low and about the same for fiber.
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Less than 15g of protein a day? Is that even possible...?
 
Less than 15g protein.. No way!!! I jist ate a home made almond /cocont biscuit with more protein than that!!!

I'm not a follower of low carb. Just works out I am....seriously advise low carb high fat diet for all.....


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Yeh since I changed my diet I have seen a vast improvement with pain and cravings... It's just the increasing problems with my glucose that are bothering me as then my shoulder pains start coming back if they are prolonged highs.
 
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