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Type 2 Low carbing and withdrawal effects

woollygal

woollygal

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Hi
So I’m trying to go lower carb. But what I’m confused about is how you detox from sugar if there is any going into your body.
So if I want to detox how do I do that without going no carb?
Feels a bit like giving an Alcoholic a glass of beer everyday and expecting them to get rid of withdrawal.

Or am I just being dense?

I can’t go no carbs because the tablets I’m on and no carbs is too much. But to be honest I feel like I’m constantly in a state of withdrawal and it isn’t going.

So is low carbing or lower carbing helping or making things worse? In terms of withdrawal
 
I think you have summed up the situation quite well.. which tablets are you on that require carbs?
Can you go back to your surgery (if you want to) and tell them what you are trying to do and see if you could reduce the dose or come off them completely while you experiment with diet. That would seem to be the inclusive way of doing it and they may learn something too.
 
Cana said:
Hi
So I’m trying to go lower carb. But what I’m confused about is how you detox from sugar if there is any going into your body.
So if I want to detox how do I do that without going no carb?
Feels a bit like giving an Alcoholic a glass of beer everyday and expecting them to get rid of withdrawal.

Or am I just being dense?

I can’t go no carbs because the tablets I’m on and no carbs is too much. But to be honest I feel like I’m constantly in a state of withdrawal and it isn’t going.

So is low carbing or lower carbing helping or making things worse? In terms of withdrawal
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I am not sure what you are asking but you make it sound like glucose is some sort of poison circulating in your body that you need to purge. We all, diabetics or not, have a certain level of glucose in our bloodstream. The point of low carb is to achieve that normal level in the same way that we want to achieve normal blood pressure, not no blood pressure. I don't know how long you have been trying low carb but after a while most people on here find they have adjusted and don't have the cravings they had at first.
 
How long have you been trying to low carb? Initially the body does not react well to the change, meaning you can feel pretty s****y for a week or two until it adjusts. Some people respond to those feelings by having a day or two of eating more carbs which can make you feel better temporarly but does not help the body adjust to a lower carb diet - it needs a fairly consistent diet ( say under x grams of carb a day not a set number every day)
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By detoxing do you mean not eating cakes or not eating foods high in carbs such as bread? Have you tried just reducing carby foods, almost all veggies have some carbs in them. To detox from added sugar is relatively easy, as is low carb, but no carbs is far more difficult. I low carb by not eating bread, potatoes etc and find that OK, currently about 20 gm carb per day.
 
Define low carb? What are your goals here?

If you’re going low enough carb, and your insulin concentration is low enough (ie. not disastrous sensitivity) then you will begin oxidising stored fat to be used as energy. If you’re in this state (ketosis) then you’ll need to up your salt and water intake to minimise the withdrawal symptoms.

It’s not really possible to offer any more help than that without knowing where you are now and where you want to be. If you’re just cutting out refined sugars but still eating bread/pasta etc. then you’ll still have an abundance of dietary glucose available and shouldn’t really feel any negative side effects of quitting the sugar.
 
Jim Lahey said:
If you’re just cutting out refined sugars but still eating bread/pasta etc. then you’ll still have an abundance of dietary glucose available and shouldn’t really feel any negative side effects of quitting the sugar.
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When I cut out food with refined sugar I found it took a couple of weeks to stop feeling cravings for maltezers, chocolate almonds etc, though it never made me feel actually ill. But I was only cutting down to about 90g a day and I still have occasional glucose tablets if I'm hypo.
 
I do the same as rusty pin. Dumped bread, pasta, etc and anything containing sugar.

I have actually reached the point where a 5g/100 difference between products, peanuts for eg. Will have me buying the lower while shopping.

As a result my carb intake is generally around 20g and has got me into ketosis. Had a bad head for a few days and a wierd taste that had an odd pear drop metalicy taste. Had wierd hunger pangs and cravings too but its all passed now. I decide to eat, hunger really isn't something I suffer with at all.

I have to say now when I do have a high carb day. I hit 150 carbs on a family night out, could have been more? I felt wierd, shakes, feeling dizzy. My blood tested around 8.5 (1hr), peaked at 9.6 and was still over 7 the following morning but as it normally (nowadays) runs at around 4 to 4.5 it was a bit like giving a tee total a couple of pints of scrumpy Jack.

I'm not doing that again. I will be more picky. The numbers are not high per se but I seem to be quite sensitive to bg changes and a 5 point rise from normal didn't feel good.

It's not for everybody. Don't think you have to. If your comfortable at 100g and your bg's are good your fine. It may be your body doesn't like the idea of keto.

Whatever you do you need to be comfortable. The last thing you need is to give up frustrated.

Good luck.
 
Sorry what I’m asking is it possible to get through the withdrawals of quitting sugar but still eating some carbs?
 
Yes, but not if you eat large amounts of carbs - they all turn to glucose (a sugar) on digestion
 
Boo1979 said:
Yes, but not if you eat large amounts of carbs - they all turn to glucose (a sugar) on digestion
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That’s fab thank you.

I’m eating a lot less but seem to be feeling ill all the time. Think I do wellthen have too much so I’m trying to have less all the time.

Just couldn’t see sense in it lol!!
 
I went straight in at 20g carbs and it took around 4 weeks to get through carb withdrawal.

Our circumstances are all different and you have to figure out what works for you.

Your meter is your best friend here. I think you're doing well :)
 
Cana said:
Sorry what I’m asking is it possible to get through the withdrawals of quitting sugar but still eating some carbs?
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Yes you will adjust to a new “normal “ level of carbs. You aren’t trying to withdraw from all glucose in the way an alcoholic or heroin addict would be from their substances.
You are changing the amount and it’ll take some time for your body and it’s cravings to get used to your new levels. Mentally and physically adjusting are also different. Wanting a high carb food mentally is different to craving it physically. But even that wanting does diminish to some degree, by a lot for some.

For many of us, in the early months especially, each caving in to high carbs sets off those cravings again and we have to start emotionally if not physically all over again.
 
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