low fat diets make you mentally more unstable

[AliB]

I think the fact that I am not anti-carb somehow got lost in the melee.

Whilst I do believe that cutting out all processed improperly prepared grain-based foods is important, I don't necessarily believe that all people should be very low carb. The fact that I seem to have to be is irrelevant. Just because my body can't handle any doesn't mean that the next person can't cope with some.

What I have made quite clear is my belief that it is processed carbohydrate foods that are a large factor in our health issues. i am not quite sure why you are so intent on ramming anti-low-carb propaganda down my throat! Even Anthony Colpo recommends that the carbs that are eaten should be natural ones rather than processed.

He may not actually be aware of the issues surrounding improperly prepared grains, the anti-nutrients and the incomplete conversion/development of gluten in fast processed foods. He is just one of the thousands out there that have opinions.

As Sparkles says, this is getting stupid. This is a low-carb forum for intelligent discussion and a meeting of minds.

The constant haranguing is off-putting to newbies and those who are emotionally fragile (but perhaps that is the intention.... :roll: ), and does not give a good impression of the forum - or the site in general. Do you REALLY want everyone to clear off so you can have it all to yourselves? Toleration, support and encouragement seem to be sorely lacking.

I can't quite figure out the 'hate' thing either. Some are low-carbing with high fat, some are low-carbing with low-fat. So what. Live and let live. Let those who wish to low fat low fat, let those who wish to high fat high fat. Simples.

If you aren't low-carbing and are only here with a big wooden spoon - clear off.

People aren't stupid. Please stop treating them as if they are..... Give them documented explanations - not pointless arguments.

 

[catherinecherub]

Had a lovely night out and thought that before I went to bed I would have a look at the forum.

Gee thanks for the personal attack sparkles, just what I needed. :lol:

Have a look at the title of this thread sparkles and change the word low to high. Can you honestly tell me that if you saw the title with an opening post confirming that the poster knew that this was true and that the article submitted had confirmed it, you wouldn't want to challenge what was being said? This wasn't a discussion because opinions were not asked for and questions were not asked in the original post.

I am sorry that you think I do not have a valid place on this forum. Perhaps you would like me to push my dietary management strategy more instead of waiting until people ask me? Perhaps you would like me to stop posting articles that are relevant to all diabetics regardless of diet and that can be discussed? Shall I also stop posting in General Chat and stop bumping posts up that have not been answered? Would you like me to stop posting to people that are in distress? If I am doing it all wrong then I have sailed along blindly for a long time without people personally attacking me. I thought that the p.m. system was for communicating things like this.
Forums do not work like social interaction as there is no eye contact, no facial recognition and no body language. This makes it difficult to understand the intentions of posters unless it is as blatant as this topic.
I know you are upset that I raised this copyright issue. This was in response to two posters I had p.m'd suggesting that they reference the medical articles that they had copied verbatim as it was against forum rules as is not acknowledging the source of recipes.. They were pleased to know this and duly amended their posts. I don't make the forum rules so your beef is not really with me.

P.S. I am allowed to post here as according to recent discussions about what constitutes a low carber, I am one. :roll:

 

[Ka-Mon]

I think the fact that I am not anti-carb somehow got lost in the melee.

Whilst I do believe that cutting out all processed improperly prepared grain-based foods is important, I don't necessarily believe that all people should be very low carb.

I thought this was a low-carb forum not a "very-low carb" forum? Maybe I got that wrong! :?

The fact that I seem to have to be is irrelevant. Just because my body can't handle any doesn't mean that the next person can't cope with some.

Has anyone told you not to low-carb or that you must be mentally unstable because you do? I don't think so, if anyone did than you can be sure that we will back you up and tell that person to ****** off.

What I have made quite clear is my belief that it is processed carbohydrate foods that are a large factor in our health issues. i am not quite sure why you are so intent on ramming anti-low-carb propaganda down my throat! Even Anthony Colpo recommends that the carbs that are eaten should be natural ones rather than processed.

Well, there you go, the links I posted weren't totally useless than were they? He does say in there that he lost weight by eating more carbs and seen as some people complained that they can't lose weight I though it might be a good place for them to pick up a couple of tips.

As Sparkles says, this is getting stupid. This is a low-carb forum for intelligent discussion and a meeting of minds.

I don't think this thread's title and what it insinuates can be described as or lead to an intelligent discussion whatsoever.

The constant haranguing is off-putting to newbies and those who are emotionally fragile (but perhaps that is the intention.... :roll: ), and does not give a good impression of the forum - or the site in general. Do you REALLY want everyone to clear off so you can have it all to yourselves? Toleration, support and encouragement seem to be sorely lacking.

Has anyone ever told you to stay in the low-carb section and not to post your low-carb ideas anywhere else in the forum? I don't think so and as far as I am aware no one has said anything against any low-carber posting anywhere in the forum and people have had and are having discussion with low-carbers and thanking them for their help...........except in this thread where it is not a discussion and was carefully designed to stir trouble.

I can't quite figure out the 'hate' thing either. Some are low-carbing with high fat, some are low-carbing with low-fat. So what. Live and let live. Let those who wish to low fat low fat, let those who wish to high fat high fat. Simples.

I think that the best thing that has been said in this thread so far and I agree 100%, live and let live but certain people (ie:the OP) doesn't seem to think the same as you do.

If you aren't low-carbing and are only here with a big wooden spoon - clear off.

Hmmmmm.....I wonder what you would say if someone told you to "clear off" when you post low-carb suggestions outside of the low-carb forum? Somehow I believe that you wouldn't like it at all and tell the person that you have every right to post where ever you like and tell him/her to "clear-off" him/herself. I also think that others, even non-low carbers, would back you up on that.

People aren't stupid. Please stop treating them as if they are..... Give them documented explanations - not pointless arguments.

I am starting to believe that either most people have forgotten what this thread is all about or that they agree with the OP that high-carbers are mentally unstable hence the reason why they want to be left alone to discuss it further and laugh at those who do not follow the same diet as those who believe are not in the same category that the OP accuses of being mentally unstable.

As you said "live and let live" and think that all, including low-carbers, who do not agree withe the OP should have told him that "People aren't stupid. Please stop treating them as if they are". But alas, none of the low carbers have so leaving us no other option but to believe that they agree with him.

How sad is that in a forum where otherwise there were no problems between members, until the arrival of a new member with a wooden spoon in his hand and disruptive and destructive plans to cause trouble aimed at certain members of the forum. What is even sadder is that some otherwise seemingly very gentle and helpful members decided to take his side and add to the chaos.

Enough said I think!

 

[Ka-Mon]

''kwallyficashuns''-can somebody explain this to me???

sarcasm for "qualifications". :wink:

 

[Ka-Mon]

Ka Mon. Why do you keep trying to sabotage the thread?
Sparkles.

I am not trying to sabotage the thread at all, the OP wanted a reaction so he got it. If the OP wanted a serious discussion, which he certainly did not, he would have made some sort of comment or asked if it can be true. But he didn't he came here guns blazing and said:

Confirmation of what has been said before many times.

As if it has been confirmed 100% that unless you low-carb and eat loads of fat you must be mentally unstable.

and TOLD you/us what to do.

Increase your intake of the good fats, olive oil, coldpressed oils, butter, coconut oil, cream with your berries.

He did not ask or suggest, no, he TOLD you/us what you/we have to do in order to stay mentally stable. That is not the beginning of a discussion, all it does is that it tells you/us that unless you/we do as he says then you/we are mentally unstable.

This sort of thread does not leave any room for discussion, you either agree with it or you are against it and hence must be mentally unstable and are accused of wanting to sabotage the thread or that you have a wooden spoon and the only reason why you come here is to stir up trouble.

This thread is trouble, was designed to cause trouble and I am really ashamed that some of you have agreed with the OP and turned against those who did not agree with him.

 

[benedict]

I've decided to lock this thread as the subject of it could be seen as offensive.

With thanks
Benedict