Meal Plan - Help

StuOnTwo

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I need advice on a good meal plan to help me start controlling my type 2...

I am overweight.... could use really granular like what to try and eat on each day,,, at a basic level if possible...

Whats good to eat - in list form?
 

13lizanne

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If you go to Menu at top of page and click on Forums you will find Food and Nutrition Forum in the List, there are many lists of suitable foods in the threads there. Have a good read around and I'm sure that you will find lots of ideas for delicious low carb meals. There are lists of foods to buy there too. Good Luck
 

daisyduck

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I'll tag @daisy1 who has some great info for new members.
Are you on any medication?
It benefits most of us to cut down on carbohydrates.. Bread. Potatoes, pasta rice etc. Depending on your previous diet this might be enough for you to lose weight
Personally I do very well on Low Carb High Fat (LCHF )
There are different low calorie diet options It depends on what sort of things you like to eat.
Have a good look around the forums.. There are some great threads titled What have you eaten today .
There is a fab recipe forum too.
 

daisyduck

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I am on metformin, but that is all. I used to LOVE pasta and bread tho
There are loads of lovely things to eat. If you browse through the list that Chook posted you'll see there is no need to starve
The Lidl protein rolls have much fewer carbs than ordinary bread, and I actually prefer courgetti or cauliflower rice or mash now.
 

StuOnTwo

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I am also confused as I also like fruit but some of the posts says avoid it... Typically for breakfast in the morning I might have a banana, or I might have porridge in the morning but banana as a snack....mid morning say 11am.... as I don't normally eat lunch until 1pm. I am so confused.
 

bulkbiker

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I am also confused as I also like fruit but some of the posts says avoid it... Typically for breakfast in the morning I might have a banana, or I might have porridge in the morning but banana as a snack....mid morning say 11am.... as I don't normally eat lunch until 1pm. I am so confused.

Fairly high carb breakfast so probably not the best either for weigh loss or blood sugar control.
A lot of us use the Low Carb High Fat diet.. you can check out some ideas here
https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb
they have a 2 week plan that includes shopping lists.

Personally I don't really have fruit any more apart from a few raspberries with some double cream or yoghurt. I find that fruit really causes my blood sugar to spike so I avoid it.
 

miahara

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I am also confused as I also like fruit but some of the posts says avoid it... Typically for breakfast in the morning I might have a banana, or I might have porridge in the morning but banana as a snack....mid morning say 11am.... as I don't normally eat lunch until 1pm. I am so confused.
We all tend to react differently to foods Stu. But bananas are quite high in carbohydrates and I now never eat more than a few slices. I tried porridge but it pushed up my blood glucose, but some folk seem to get away with it. Fruit in general is ok, but much depends on the specific fruit and the quantity. Rasps and strawberries are low carb, pome fruit is a bit higher and 'exotic' fruit usually higher still. You don't have to avoid fruit completely, just choose your fruit carefully and eat it in moderation.
Using a meter to test you blood glucose before and after a meal would help you assess how your body and BG responds to different foods.

Dave
 

StuOnTwo

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Yea I have a meter and I test before and after eating... for the most part I am sitting between the recommended 4.5 and 8.5 range. Occasionally I tend to over eat, with a larger portion size that messes things up... but a lot of it is down to boredom. I find it hard to excercise too as I have osteoarthritis in all of my joints, causing significant pain most days.
 

Robbity

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As well as looking at the lists on the forum, go and buy yourself a copy of Trudi Deakins "Eat Fat"!

Even if you choose not to eat a low carb high fat diet it's a good basic beginners guide to reducing carbs, and has a see at a glance "traffic lights" colour coded system listing the suitability or otherwise of a whole range of different foods.

Robbity
 

Resurgam

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I was eating salad - pre-packed leaves, with some meat or fish as my first meal, but now I have changed to omelettes. Another option is bacon eggs mushrooms and tomato. Later in the day I eat meat and vegetables - if you look for low carb options such as cauliflower or courgette, or a frozen mixture beware those with sweetcorn as it is a grain and so high carb - always check the back of the packet. Sometimes I simmer the remains of a joint of meat with vegetables to make a stew - I like to add chopped celery to that. Once you get into the way of eating low carb you can do quite a few different sorts of meal for yourself, and just add something more carby for other family members if You need to feed them too.
 

daisy1

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@StuOnTwo

Hello Stu and welcome to the forum :) Here is the basic information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 147,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

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