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I see it this way:
If I need meat or non-vegetable protein and/or dairy in order to have a healthy life and I can afford the aforesaid, then for me that trumps any concerns about damage to the environment from not being vegan. Sorry, but I am 68yrs old with (deliberately) no children, so I can afford to be a little selfish!
Not to mention methane clathrates, aka hydrates.Sulfur hexafluoride says it all really.
Never heard of them / it to be honest.
I will continue to promote meat etc. as I will not be told what to do by mob of galahs...
Sounds straight out of the Sir Les Patterson school of culture.Tipetoo you reminded me of something...
Old Australian delicasie.. get a galah a brick to tenderise galah. Cook in billy for 6 hrs when tender thow out galah eat the brick.
There is nothing like good reasoned debate, and this thread is also nothing like that, so far as far as I can see every one that has posted has been of like mind I have seen no counter arguments proposed to support a ban on meat.
Maybe and this is no disparagement on vegans or veganism but may be we could see some here sometime and then we could have a proper discussion on the pros and cons of the proposed meat ban.
Hi John, It could be those here may have a more live and let live attitude and are no more in favor of banning meat than any of us and don't see their WOE as a holy crusade.
So I hope they are in the majority.
It is the lack of scientific evidence behind calls for such a ban that concerns me but not as much as the seemingly authoritarian way that such a ban would be enforced on us all. My dinner, my choice.I will and have eaten vegetarian meals I used to cook vegan for someone who lived with us for a while I don't eat to one particular WOE exclusively as far as I am concerned though I would resent bitterly having it forced on me as such a ban would attempt to do.
I was merely pointing out that if someone could convince me to change my mind it is not going to happen on this thread
Don't worry, they are working on an alternative
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sc...ory-the-science-of-your-synthetic-supper/amp/
John, there is no sensible debate against meat. It has the potential to be local - tick, it is the easiest to digest by the majority - tick, it is the most nutrient dense - tick. It has been said to cause diabetes, yet most Type 2's reverse on it - tick, it is said to be a major contributory to climate change, yet the Savory Institute and others prove carbon neutral - tick, it reverses much more than Type 2 (meatheals.com / Paleomedicina) - tick, historic data on human use - tick, highest living populations digesting the most meat - Hong Kong - tick. Despite billions being spent to rubbish meat and tortured data they haven't been able to get out of first gear with the allegations (...but much is believed, this has to urgently be countered).There is nothing like good reasoned debate, and this thread is also nothing like that, so far as far as I can see every one that has posted has been of like mind I have seen no counter arguments proposed to support a ban on meat.
Maybe and this is no disparagement on vegans or veganism but may be we could see some here sometime and then we could have a proper discussion on the pros and cons of the proposed meat ban.
It could be those here may have a more live and let live attitude and are no more in favor of banning meat than any of us and don't see their WOE as a holy crusade.
So I hope they are in the majority.
Just as a reminder, John, my twist on this is to say if you don’t want a meat ban then make sure all the other factors are taken care of. Then meat need not be touched.There is nothing like good reasoned debate, and this thread is also nothing like that, so far as far as I can see every one that has posted has been of like mind I have seen no counter arguments proposed to support a ban on meat.
Maybe and this is no disparagement on vegans or veganism but may be we could see some here sometime and then we could have a proper discussion on the pros and cons of the proposed meat ban.
It could be those here may have a more live and let live attitude and are no more in favor of banning meat than any of us and don't see their WOE as a holy crusade.
So I hope they are in the majority.
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