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Hi Folks - Just picked up the end of a News Broadcast this afternoon from some Professor who thinks people who are Type 2 Diabetic are the cause of their own problem due to being Porky in other words overweight. A specialist from Diabetes UK responded & was most annoyed and advised that Diabetes is not just to do with weight, its a family issue/producer & seller of Food issues as many people don't understand how to read current labelling of food, for example "Humas" you would expect is good for a Diabetec infact it is high in Cholestrol, and although it is essential Diabetics take control of there problem, it not all about weight loss, as you have to understand how to control weight loss.

Overal the attitude of this educated Professor is the worst I have heard and did nothing to assist those who are Diabetics wither Type 2 or 1 - Diabetics need positive and regular help not critics who just blab for sake of hearing themselves. In my own case I am very fortunate that I have an excellent Consultant/GP & Healthcare Team & receive all the relevant checks for eyes/feet & medication along with the Hb1Ac Checks - also my other half is excellent in her support & like today shopping day looking for the correct food which sometimes does not come cheap - so as Diabetic UK rep said there are more issues than over weight. Hopefully will pick-up the story again onto nights 18:00hrs News :D
 
He had a few minutes, it would have been nice if he had managed to get time to explain all about it but he didn't.

There was nothing in there that wasn't true. We may not like it and there are other influencing factors but being overweight and not being active enough are big influences.

We accept people in here warning about the possible side effects if you don't get your diabetes under control?

This chap wants to prevent people getting it in the first place were possible. Your never going to prevent everyone getting it but even if the the message gets across to a few it prevents just a few people getting it surely that is a good thing?

We could always do like my local Tesco.............. Diabetes is the charity they are raising funds for this year. The lass at the local store worked really hard to get donations and come and set the cake stall up :shock: . She did her best, she tried. Nicely ironic mind .
 
I accept that 80% of newly diagnosed diabetics are overweight so it is an undeniable fact that being overweight is a marker or a contributing factor in the increase of T2 diabetes. More overweight people more diabetics. But calling people "lazy porkers" as this ignorant Professor Craig Currie did is outrageous, if true.

I have posted elsewhere that I have recently been re reading Paul McKennas book "I Can Make You Thin" and its his theory that stress is the major cause of people being overweight today and the increase in conditions associated with obesity ie CDV, diabetes etc have increased along with worldwide stress levels. Just maybe he is right, at least he trys to help people lose weight and not just insult them. Insults have never cured anything as far as I an aware.

Everyone has heard someone say that "I eat when I am anxious" or "I eat when I am depressed", "I eat when I am bored", "I'm a comfort eater", "I crave this", "I crave that" etc etc. These are all signs of stress and can be cured (Paul McKenna claims) by re programming the way we look at ourselves and our relationship with food, without involving any type of diet at all!!

Now Isnt it better to deal with the cause of obesity than simply to label every overweight person as being "lazy porkers" which is far from the truth and extremely insulting. I mean what does he hope to achieve by insulting people who may already be depressed about the way they look? Overweight people know they are overweight but loosing weight is not always easy, in fact it is rarely even understood, yes if you eat less you will loose weight but it is the reasons for eating too much that need to be addressed, you cant stop an alcoholic drinking themselves to death by simply telling them they are idle dribbling drunks can you and neither can you cure drug addiction by insulting addicts. No, you have to address the underlying issues.

So what exactly does this idiot hope to achieve? I find it incredible that this fool has managed to become a professor of anything.
 
He quite clearly used the expression lazy porkers. I think it was a nation of lazy porkers.

Why is he ignorant? Bordering on the rude maybe but ignorant?

He did a great job, he got people talking about it even if some see it as negative.

No one said loosing weight is easy. I find it really easy to put it on though.

Eating more calories than your body needs makes people thin then?

When we stop trying to find excuses and start facing cold bare facts we may get somewhere.
 
I was a fat lazy porker and was having a great time. Eating and drinking and having a great time. In fact although my job was stressful it was not the reason I drank and ate too much and smoked excessively. I was having a good time.
Then I collapsed and it was discovered I had diabetes. A week later I had a heart attack and nearly never made it.
He was right in my case.
That is exactly what I was.
Now i don't smoke, don't drink, exercise daily, eat a really healthy diet and have my diabetes under control and have lost 35kgs. Still having a great time.
Worse thing is I never saw a fat man in the mirror. I saw a large guy but not fat. I wish he had insulted me I would maybe have responded to that direct approach.
I am no longer a fat lazy porker who's only exercise was walking to a bar or to buy fags.
People respond to different approaches because we are all individuals. Let him do his work. If it changes some people then what's the harm.

Andy

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I was a fat lazy porker and was having a great time. Eating and drinking and having a great time. In fact although my job was stressful it was not the reason I drank and ate too much and smoked excessively. I was having a good time.
Then I collapsed and it was discovered I had diabetes. A week later I had a heart attack and nearly never made it.
He was right in my case.
That is exactly what I was.
Now i don't smoke, don't drink, exercise daily, eat a really healthy diet and have my diabetes under control and have lost 35kgs. Still having a great time.
Worse thing is I never saw a fat man in the mirror. I saw a large guy but not fat. I wish he had insulted me I would maybe have responded to that direct approach.
I am no longer a fat lazy porker who's only exercise was walking to a bar or to buy fags.
People respond to different approaches because we are all individuals. Let him do his work. If it changes some people then what's the harm.

Andy

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Andy I was the same except that I stopped before the heart attack. My dad had type 2 Diabetes as well even though he was a skinny one.

I wasn't "obese" but overweight and enjoyed a similar life style. I was getting so the 1/3 of a mile back from the pub was a two or three stops for a breather. The 1/2 hour swim in the middle of a 4 mile walk to work isn't that much of a challenge a year later.

Like you its daily exercise and watching what I eat.

I seriously doubt I would be here and pretty healthy if I hadn't dramatically changed.

My GP had been pretty blunt about the it isn't if you are going to have an heart attack its merely when, a couple of years before. It took time and a few more messages from my body for it to sink in. Every time something wasn't quite right the message popped up in my head.
 
1andylock said:
I was a fat lazy porker and was having a great time. Eating and drinking and having a great time. In fact although my job was stressful it was not the reason I drank and ate too much and smoked excessively. I was having a good time.
Then I collapsed and it was discovered I had diabetes. A week later I had a heart attack and nearly never made it.
He was right in my case.
That is exactly what I was.
Now i don't smoke, don't drink, exercise daily, eat a really healthy diet and have my diabetes under control and have lost 35kgs. Still having a great time.
Worse thing is I never saw a fat man in the mirror. I saw a large guy but not fat. I wish he had insulted me I would maybe have responded to that direct approach.
I am no longer a fat lazy porker who's only exercise was walking to a bar or to buy fags.
People respond to different approaches because we are all individuals. Let him do his work. If it changes some people then what's the harm.

Andy

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Well said Andy ! Sometime we need to hear things we don't like ! I understand this is not the case for everyone, but certainly a good percentage.


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Just read the report and there are some scary statistics there. I also think we ARE a nation of lazy porkers ! Sometimes, shock tactics are needed. The softly softly approach doesn't work for most. We all know that obesity and sedentary lifestyles are bad. It doesn't need spelling out. Education has not worked. Ask any overweight person if they can explain a healthy lifestyle and diet and they will give you a good idea. It's personal choice. I'm not innocent. My diet isn't the best and I drink beer but that's my decision. I understand the risks. What I won't do is moan when I'm told that my lifestyle could cause certain illnesses !


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Well duh! The professor of bleeding obvious studies at the university of know it alls has made a stunning discovery. Lazy porkers can get T2 diabetes.
It's a huge revelation and I'm gonna go out on a limb and suggest smoking tobacco and drinking alcohol might not be too good for health either.
In fact, at the risk of sounding like a health guru, I'd like to bet that jogging in the fast lane of the M1 might have health consequences too.
Maybe some helpful information and pointers towards implementing a healthier lifestyle would be a better use of time than throwing insults at folk who have limited access to reply?


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Well said Sparky !

How would we manage without these bleeding obvious instructions !

These idiots will be telling us next that rain falls down !

Don't get me started buddy !

Regards Superchip

P.S Apparently the world is round ?

Edit. After listening to the radio broadcast it occured to me that I would not want to hire this bloke for an after dinner speech at a Samaritans conference !
 
sparkyrich said:
Maybe some helpful information and pointers towards implementing a healthier lifestyle would be a better use of time than throwing insults at folk who have limited access to reply?

There is plenty of information regarding healthy lifestyles on TV, radio, magazines and internet.
99% of the population are well aware of a healthy diet and the benefits of exercise !
Whether people choose to follow this advice is a totally different matter. Many, unfortunately, don't. That's their choice. An educated decision. I am fully aware that if I choose to eat a Big Mac over an apple that I may not be making the best choice but, my decision.
I am a big believer in live and let live. Each to their own. What I find a little frustrating is when people become ill or suffer and moan that it's not their fault. Nobody told them. Just take ownership for your choices in life. I drink more than is probably healthy and enjoy the wrong type of food but my choice.


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catherinecherub said:
Saw this on the BBC website, same story I would think.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-22543559
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The professor has been interviewed about his views of why we are where we are. He states the truth so don't knock him for it.

As a nation we are fatter, that is a fact. And we continue to get fatter as the messages about obesity and diabetes are cranked up. The problem is that the public at large choose to ignore the message, they don't see themselves as overweight and kid themselves that a little (actually a lot) of what you like doesn't hurt. Take Vijay in the film clip at the start of the article. We are given the impression that he isn't overweight and he's fit because he plays regular football. He thinks the problem is his family history. This is utter tosh. He may have a genetic propensity to develop diabetes given a calorie rich western diet but the fact remains that Vijay is 'porky'. He has a double chin and a gut, if that isn't fat I don't know what is - but he is in denial about this and the reporter seems to be too (perhaps they are equally porky and also in denial).

We need to wake up as a nation. What we consider normal (dress size, waist size, weight) has increased enormously over the last generation. If you need evidence for this just look at any old news reports from as recently as the 60's and 70's most people in them would now be considered thin. As the professor said we are a nation of lazy porkers and no amount of gentle persuasion and advice seems to be making any difference. Well said Prof!
 
He is stating the obvious but it nedds stating. The post on here suggesting increased stress, why is there increases stress and why does it cause people to eat?

There is a great deal of the population chasing a media created dream, putting cheap ****** food on the table whilst playing on an iPad watching a giant telly! Oooh we have to work more hours, no you don't, just spend less money!

Have you watched that secret eaters on channel 4? The programme should be called delusional thick *****

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Look, there are some folk who'll never get the correlation between food and size. There are those of us who are fully aware of the link and the consequences of ignoring it. I used to smoke heavily and gave up for love ( yeah, yeah, I know) I still drink more than is good for me and I'm very definitely in the porky and lazy camp.
I've also attended the funerals of a couple of friends who were slim and supposedly healthy and fit.
No one, I rep


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I repeat, no one, lives forever. Old age is fairly over rated - for every pensioner tripping the light fantastic, ill show you another sat in a chair dribbling and waiting for the guy with the scythe.
Smokers have been the butt ( no pun intended) of the health Gestapo for years. Now it's tha turn of the drinkers and fatti


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*fatties. Who's going to be next?
I've managed the toilet alone for 50 odd years and I'm more than capable of making my own lifestyle choices. How about worrying about the health aspects of Syria's chemical warfare or the sweat shops of the Far East and leave me to my self inflicted heaven?


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