MILK and Diabetes

[Osidge]

In deciding what effects food have in you it is best to use a meter to see what effects different foods have on you. You must also make sure that if you discard foods from your diet that contain necessary nutrients that you make sure you are getting enough of them from other foods (e.g. calcium)

Regards

Doug

 

[Fraddycat]

I still drink milk in my tea, nothing else quite tastes the same. Even so my BGs remain pretty good and I am still losing weight. I think milk in moderation is fine, but as Osidge says, test to be sure.

 

[Grazer]

Hi,
I was surprised to read about the high content of carb in milk in this thread, as far as i can see in my semi skimmed milk, it's 4.8% carb, that i consider to be rather low, am I missing something?

Depends how much you drink. Remember, that 4.5 % means 4.5 grams carbs per 100 ml. A half-pint glass of milk is 270 mls, which is approx 12 grams carbs. So for someone on a low carb diet, that's quite a lot in just one drink. Some in tea or coffee doesn't amount to much.

 

[MaryJ]

I also drink milk in tea and coffee doesnt bother me at all.

The op said she drinks shed loads of it, so it will be an issue for her as per Grazers numbers above

Mary x

 

[Roy Wild]

I am type 2 and as far as milk is concerned, I use sugarfree soya milk in tea and breakfast (Alpen) and have no problems, hope this is helpful.

 

[Roy Wild]

I am type 2 and as far as milk is concerned, I use sugarfree soya milk in tea and breakfast (Alpen) and have no problems, hope this is helpful.

 

[lukkymik]

Sorry guys but I beg to differ..... milk in small quantities is beneficial especially goats. almond milk can have disasterous consequsnces if you arent carefull about quantities. I'm amazed that so many people get hung up about carb intake. You Have to eat some carbs otherwise your body will find its building blocks from elsewhere. Newly diagnosed diabetics MUST get specialist help to determine what is best for THEM as no 2 peoples symptoms are the same. This is a forum for helping each other to deal with this disease not for telling people that what suits you is right 'cos a pound to a penny it wont be. WE are laymen here to support ... leave the disgnosis to the specialists.....PLEASE

 

[lukkymik]

Sorry Maureen didnt see ur post re goats milk. been on it for 30+ years and control goes haywire uf I use cow or soya but hey thats just me!!!

 

[Shaun IDD1970]

I like my milk cold:

Recently got a phone APP that states carbs and calories per item. From that:

whole milk : 1 half pint glass of has 13g carbs and 189 calories
Semi skimmed: 1 half pint glass of has 13g carbs and 132 calories
Skimmed; 1 half pint glass of has 13g carbs and 92 calories

Though diabetic since 1970, I am late to the carb counting faze. You need to manage milk by swapping out other items perhaps

Shaun
www.alphaenterprises.co.uk

 

[Grazer]

Sorry guys but I beg to differ..... milk in small quantities is beneficial especially goats. almond milk can have disasterous consequsnces if you arent carefull about quantities. I'm amazed that so many people get hung up about carb intake. You Have to eat some carbs otherwise your body will find its building blocks from elsewhere. Newly diagnosed diabetics MUST get specialist help to determine what is best for THEM as no 2 peoples symptoms are the same. This is a forum for helping each other to deal with this disease not for telling people that what suits you is right 'cos a pound to a penny it wont be. WE are laymen here to support ... leave the disgnosis to the specialists.....PLEASE

These people aren't hung up on carbs, just trying to find ways of enjoying the things they like whilst keeping carbs down to a level they can tolerate. Remember, you use an amount of insulin to cover the level of carbs you eat. A lot of people try to stay off insulin, and other strong meds, and as type 2s on diet only or metformin, they HAVE to control their carb intake. The level they control to will depend on their individual disbetic status. As for relying on the "professionals", I'd probably be on insulin myself by now If I did that. Much of the advice regarding diet on this forum is far more informed than that I received from the HCP I saw. Some HCPs appear far more informed than others, but ultimately everyone has to take responsibility for their own diabetes.

 

[borofergie]

I'm amazed that so many people get hung up about carb intake. You Have to eat some carbs otherwise your body will find its building blocks from elsewhere.

Your body is built from protein and fats, not carbohydrate. Your capacity to store glycogen is very limited - if you eat more than your muscles and liver can store (about 1200g) the excess gets turned to fat anyway. Your metabolism is capable of meeting it's entire glucose requirement from the gluconeogenesis of fats and protein.

I"m hung up about carb intake, because I'm serious about controlling my BG levels.

 

[Osidge]

Grazer

You often refer to diabetic meds as strong meds. The truth is that it is not an issue of strength but just difference. Referring to all meds but metformin as strong meds is just another way of demonising meds and is not encouraged.

Helping you to help others

Doug

 

[mrawfell]

Princeasl, I have retired to the Philippines, where rice is the staple diet, and potatoes are relatively expensive. However when I was diagnosed about 2 years ago, I accepted, rice, potatoes, white bread, pasta, spagetti etc, all had to go. I had a choice, change my diet or suffer the consequences. My doctor presciribed Metformin, and vildaglitin. Again I had a choice, take them or not. I considered the situation for about 20 seconds, thought about the slow agonising death, with all the stages in between, amputation, blindness etc. It happened to one of my friends. This or take the tablets, and change my diet, and live like a normal person. I can't see the problem in making a decision.
Just be aware brown rice, whole wheat bread, sweet potatoes ( yes ) have a lower G.I. this means they release the starch/glucose more slowly, not that they contain less.
To be honest, I would be very concerned if my figures were high as yours.

 

[mrawfell]

Re: MILK and Diabetes

Postby mrawfell » less than a minute ago
Princeasl, I have retired to the Philippines, where rice is the staple diet, and potatoes are relatively expensive. However when I was diagnosed about 2 years ago, I accepted, rice, potatoes, white bread, pasta, spagetti etc, all had to go. I had a choice, change my diet or suffer the consequences. My doctor presciribed Metformin, and vildaglitin. Again I had a choice, take them or not. I considered the situation for about 20 seconds, thought about the slow agonising death, with all the stages in between, amputation, blindness etc. It happened to one of my friends. This or take the tablets, and change my diet, and live like a normal person. I can't see the problem in making a decision.
Just be aware brown rice, whole wheat bread, sweet potatoes ( yes ) have a lower G.I. this means they release the starch/glucose more slowly, not that they contain less.
To be honest, I would be very concerned if my figures were high as yours.

mrawfell

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[Tamara66]

Milk is great for treating hypo's!! Especially cos when I'm having a hypo the LAST thing I want to do is EAT!

 

[coldwar]

Hi I am a type 1 diabetic. I have had it for 47 years, so naturally what you can eat, and what you shouldn't eat have changed frequently. My A1C is 6.8. I read someones post concerning milk..... I don't like milk too much, but when I buy it it is 1%, it does not bother my BS.
Anything ending in "ose" is a sugar base. (dextrose,cellulose, lactose, and many others.)

I also read a post where someone eats only 35 carbs a day!!!! What do you eat then? Just meat and eggs? Virtually everything has carbs in it. The list is infinite.

Very curious about the 35 carb a day post.
Thanks for listening :wave:

 

[Indy51]

You can find information on a low carb diet here: http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf

Dr Bernstein recommends 30g carbs a day in his book:
http://www.diabetes-book.com/index.shtml

 

[Osidge]

Hi Coldwar

As well as the external links provided by Indy, there is a wealth of information on this forum about low carb eating.

Regards

Doug

 

[Philfre]

There is a publication on the Dairy Council website - www.milk.co.uk, follow the Publications link, and look / download 'The Nutritional Composition Of Dairy Products'. It gives a complete breakdown of all types of milk and dairy - makes for an interesting ( and sometimes shocking!) read - it certainly changed my consumption of some dairy products!

 

[naylorm0098]

I am type 2 since I was 9 i am now 39 and have had at least one glass of milk everyday it contains carbs which is the measure of a diabetic diet. I have 220g of carbs a day minimum and administer insulin in accordance with my carb intake and my bg is average 8.3 mmol, everyone is different so see how your bloods are and judge for yourself and discuss with your own gp or diabetic specialist but as with any diet you have to balance your food intake and reduce the amount of sugary foods such as chocolate and sweets.