Type 1 Morgage protection refusal

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Hello. I am currently in the process of buy a house (first time buyer). I was asked about morgage protection and answered all the life style questions. When asked about medical conditions i said i was a type 1 diabetic. The insurance company that my morgage advisor was using asked a few questions via him about my diabetes and it was refused. I know i can look independantly but was annoyed that i am pretty much loooking after mself and have not taken time off work relating to diabetes for over 9 years. Felt alittle dismissed by the insurance company as i am a low risk person if he had bothered to talk to me directly or even gotten a hold of my medical records. Are there any companies out there that do not flatly refuse you on the grounds of being a diabetic and treat you fairly?
 

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Hello. I am currently in the process of buy a house (first time buyer). I was asked about morgage protection and answered all the life style questions. When asked about medical conditions i said i was a type 1 diabetic. The insurance company that my morgage advisor was using asked a few questions via him about my diabetes and it was refused. I know i can look independantly but was annoyed that i am pretty much loooking after mself and have not taken time off work relating to diabetes for over 9 years. Felt alittle dismissed by the insurance company as i am a low risk person if he had bothered to talk to me directly or even gotten a hold of my medical records. Are there any companies out there that do not flatly refuse you on the grounds of being a diabetic and treat you fairly?
Hi @ljmc

Cannot recommend any insurers, but responding to this from a non diabetic angle, these types of policies have had a lot of negative press because the companies are notoriously bad at paying out when you get made redundant or become ill etc. Do a bit of research before signing anything.
 

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Hi, lifetime in financial services so here goes - mortgage protection, presumably you mean decreasing term assurance or life assurance for the term of the mortgage? Ring an IFA, you will find most Banks or advisers tied to an estate agency cannot deal with specialist needs. IFAs have access to people like PULSE who have specific questionnaires that are then forwarded to companies to quote on. If you are a well controlled T1 there is no reason not to get some term assurance, it will be loaded and if you want critical illness cover it is likely to be declined or have exclusions and a large loading. Standard life assurance though shouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility.

I am not currently an authorised IFA or else I would help.

Ali
 
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Thank goodness diabetes is indiscriminate. It means that whatever you want to know, somewhere on this forum there's probably someone with an answer.
Mrs DeeJay is currently raising some dosh by drawing down loans on sundry properties and is having to dump me as joint mortgagee or whatever as I am too old, and worth more dead than alive :)
I have found car insurance which goes into almost embarrassing details about me and my little treasure, but at least they have tripled its agreed value this year so it'll now be worth about a tenth of what I've spent on it in 15 years.
This is nothing to do with your project but I like to ramble.
Good luck with it.
 
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Hello. I am currently in the process of buy a house (first time buyer). I was asked about morgage protection and answered all the life style questions. When asked about medical conditions i said i was a type 1 diabetic. The insurance company that my morgage advisor was using asked a few questions via him about my diabetes and it was refused. I know i can look independantly but was annoyed that i am pretty much loooking after mself and have not taken time off work relating to diabetes for over 9 years. Felt alittle dismissed by the insurance company as i am a low risk person if he had bothered to talk to me directly or even gotten a hold of my medical records. Are there any companies out there that do not flatly refuse you on the grounds of being a diabetic and treat you fairly?

Like Ali H, I am not a financial advisor, but I have done a considerable amount of work in financial services, life assurance providors and in particular, I have done quite a bit of work with risk, pricing, actuarial and underwriting. The latter projects were all very fascinating if you like "sums", but I digress.

If you are as well controlled, and without any known complications, I am confident you should be able to secure Mortgage Protection cover. If you are looking to add Critical Illness Cover to that, you will find your challenge harder. The sad, hard fact is that, as a T1 diabetic, you are statistically a higher risk than Joe Public of a similar age, occupation and lifestyle. A life house view will also be influenced by their current insured book. In other words, a bit like a bookmaker, if the feel they are exposed to enough risk of any particular event, in your case we're clearly talking T1, then they simply stop taking risk of that sort. In other words, they can decide not to insure any more diabetics for a while, then potentially re-start once their position improves.

In reality, consulting with an IFA will almost always bring you a better price/cost for any given product or service, due to a plethora of factors I could explain to you, but neither of us have enough life left for that!. For obvious reasons, whilst working with pricing and actuarial, I had access to lots of competitor information - all in the open domain, but just a real ache to collate, and in your shoes, I'd be hot footing it to an IFA whom I might expect to be having a chat with Legal & General, Aviva and Standard Life for starters. There are also advisor groups who specialise in dealing with impaired lives. For the life of me, I can't recall the name of one such organisation I have seen mentioned on here from time to time, so I'll tag @noblehead and @novorapidboi26 , as I recall them having relevant experience to you.

Good luck with it all.
 

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Um, pretty much what I said lol and whilst I am not currently authorised, I WAS an IFA for some years so at the sharp end of it all, have filled in some health questionnaires in my time I can tell you.

Ali
 

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At the turn of the millennium I managed to get a Mortgage Decreasing Term Plan with a company called Cornhill Insurance who were sold to or merged with a company called Phoenix Life (that is who my premiums are now payable to), at the time I struggled to get cover and Cornhill was the one company who would cover me but the premiums were heavily loaded.

I'd do as suggested and try some of the specialist company's that deal with people who have life-long medical conditions, but unfortunately you will have to pay over the odds for cover due to having type 1 diabetes.
 

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Hello. I am currently in the process of buy a house (first time buyer). I was asked about morgage protection and answered all the life style questions. When asked about medical conditions i said i was a type 1 diabetic. The insurance company that my morgage advisor was using asked a few questions via him about my diabetes and it was refused. I know i can look independantly but was annoyed that i am pretty much loooking after mself and have not taken time off work relating to diabetes for over 9 years. Felt alittle dismissed by the insurance company as i am a low risk person if he had bothered to talk to me directly or even gotten a hold of my medical records. Are there any companies out there that do not flatly refuse you on the grounds of being a diabetic and treat you fairly?


There are companies out there that do accept diabetic patients...........I ended up with life insurance from AVIVA, through a broker/financial adviser on the insurance surgery website. Do a Google search.........

I too, had to go elsewhere as the company or companies that my financial adviser used did not accept my applications..........no doubt these financial advisers know the easiest places to go for cover and of course mortgages, that's why their in business.....

so its definitely worth seeking out a specialist broker or insurance company who cater for people with medical conditions.....

I have background reitnopathy in both eyes and some maculopthy in one eye, on BP meds and I even said I dabbled in the odd fag, just in case I do dabble, die and they refuse the payout.......
 

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Thank you everyone. Looks like a long internet search is on my horizon. Think i will use and abuse a local wetherspoons wi-fi and their free refill coffee to get the best deal as well as save my data allowance
 
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I had the same thing. Mortgage payment protection and diabetes seem to not mix at the moment.
I checked around a bit and they all seem to have a global NO answer where T1 is concerned, some seem to be warming a little but I think it really is just a lack of knowledge and understanding.

/A
 

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Hmmm.....I went through an IFA for critical illness and life insurance and had no issues despite being T1. Although higher risk it seems to be balanced by the fact that they expect us to die earlier and hence may be less likely to claim!! I know. We get it from every angle!
 

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Yes that is the correct avenue Scardoc, because IFAs are whole of market they are able to use avenues that tied reps can't. It is not impossible to get unless your control is horrendous of course, but you do need to get specialist advice.

Ali
 

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Yeah when I bought my house I went to an IFA. The usual insurance the mortgage provider wants to see was no issue. The income protection was a no go. Luckily I have a basic one provided as part of my benefits package at work so wasn't massively concerned but it did annoy the hell out of me.
 

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Someone really needs to kick these guys. I personally plan on outliving the so called healthy non-diabetics at my work