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My partners blood sugars are through the roof help please

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Rosienjim2

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Hi all I am a new member here my partner is 32 and suffers with chronic pancreatitis so now has been told he is type 2 diabetic but insulin dependant his blood sugars are through the roof for example todAy alone are 25.6,19.0,22.3,30.2,19.4, that is just today alone dose anyone else have this problem and what are they being told to do he takes 20ml of insulin everyday any help would be appreciated thank you
 
Is partner with a diabetes consultant at hospital?

He prob feeling ****.. try to avoid food laden with carbs and get partner to drink sugar free liquids..

I would suggest you phone 111 for advice depending upon how long he has had those high levels.

I take it that diagnosis is recently? And that partner jyst takes a fixed amount of insulin?

Partner needs more insulin
OR less carbs or both.. but we are unable to give further advice other than what we would do.

We arent medics but experienced diabetics...

Hope others will come aling and help further.

Is partner eating morenover xmas/new year period?
 
donnellysdogs said:
Is partner with a diabetes consultant at hospital?

He prob feeling ****.. try to avoid food laden with carbs and get partner to drink sugar free liquids..

I would suggest you phone 111 for advice depending upon how long he has had those high levels.

I take it that diagnosis is recently? And that partner jyst takes a fixed amount of insulin?

Partner needs more insulin
OR less carbs or both.. but we are unable to give further advice other than what we would do.

We arent medics but experienced diabetics...

Hope others will come aling and help further.
Thank you for your reply his diet isn't the best due to his pancreatitis as when he dose eat he is either sick or crippled with stomach cramps, his levels have been that high for about 2 months he was given metformin which didn't work and another tablet which also didn't work so stated on insulin about 4-5 weeks ago.
Is partner eating morenover xmas/new year period?
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Ok, well he needs to take more insulin but this needs to be resolved quickly through medical persons.

We cannot advise on how much etc but it is important that partner gets urgent appointment next week. Ideally with a consultant....

If he is drifting in/out of consciosness, lethargic, sick, thirst I would phone 111..
 
I suggest you list what an average day of eating for your partner looks like. Does he eat a lot of bread, potatoes, rice or pasta? Does he consume sugary drinks including fruit juices? Cutting down or completely cutting out processed carbs (pretty much anything with a label on it) can make a huge difference in the blood glucose readings. It’s better to stick with vegetables and some fruit but not too much as it has natural sugar (fructose) in it.
I control my T2 with diet and exercise so I will not comment on any meds but if he does reduce processed carbs, he should test quite a bit until he knows which foods cause the increase.
 
Hi Rosienjim2 i have been diabetic for over 15 years. i came of the metformin and glipizides years ago and now take insulin only (Humalog 50) i at first thought low insulin doses would help bring down my blood sugars. but as i was eating foods laden with carbs. ie potatoes, rice, pasta, starch foods like bread etc.... all the things most people are used to growing up in UK. i discovered LCHF a year ago. and dedicated myself to it. it's really hard at first, but i have lost over 2 stones in weight. without exercising and knocking myself out. just eating more real foods. my A1c is around 7.5 and i am aiming to get it lower. i am NOT advocating you go on this diet. it's something that has really helped. BUT... uou have to dedicate yourself to it. i know i will be off of insulin completely. i have given myself another 6 months. and i know i will no longer need it. i take such small amounts now less than 10 units twice a day. and sometimes i get hypos taking that amount. but if you do decide to try it. see a professional first and ex[lain it to them. some so called Doctor/Nutritionists will call you a maniac. but there is so much knowledge for this eating way of life. i would make enquiries at least. anyway just my tuppence worth of info. it works for me. i used to have glucose levels like that of your partner. a thing of the past for me now. good luck !
 
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Rosienjim2 said:
He is just on insulin as they took him off metformin as it was not bringing his sugars down.
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The brand name of the medication helps work out what type of insulin regime your partner is on...?
Different types of insulin have different working profiles..

With regards to dialing 111, they would wish to know precisely what meds are taken..
 
Jaylee said:
The brand name of the medication helps work out what type of insulin regime your partner is on...?
Different types of insulin have different working profiles..

With regards to dialing 111, they would wish to know precisely what meds are taken..
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Oh sorry I didn't realize they was all different he is on levemir flexi pen he takes 20 ml I hope that's what you mean I am all new to this
 
Rosienjim2 said:
Oh sorry I didn't realize they was all different he is on levemir flexi pen he takes 20 ml I hope that's what you mean I am all new to this
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This helps.
He takes nothing else? No other insulin like Novorapid with meals.? Levemir is just a long acting basal insulin...
 
Rosienjim2 said:
Nope nothing else for his diabetes
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This is what I feared... pancreatitis is soecialist knowledgeband treatment. There are a few people on here with it. (I'm a T1).

At the moment thr main thing needed is more insulin.. no matter what partner can or cannot eat is not the same as T2's advocating minimsl carbs etc.

Your partner needs specialist help and more insulin..., please seek help tomorrow from GP (as a minimum).... do not accept waiting 2 weeks for an appointment). Your partner needs help.

Being like this for 4-5 weeks is not acceptable. If he has a consultant at hospital please speak to consultant secretary urgently tomorrow.
 
Thank you for your reply's, we have not been given any type of diet plans ect just told to eat healthier but as said above this is hard with his other illness, he dose not have a diabetic consultant or a diabetic nurse just his gp which really I don't think she knows what to do for the best they mentioned going into hospital to have insulin through iv which is all good and well but then if they go back up again he is entering a circle which is going to be hard to get out of, we are being told his pancreas is working a little but then a next appointment we are told it is not working so if I am on the right tracks then his body won't be producing any insulin and there for would need more anyway but I am not medical trained so I may be completely wrong.
 
At the moment the amount of carbohydrate in his meals is more than your partner can cope with even with the background insulin he is injecting.
Eat healthier is no advice at all - the reason people are suggesting that reducing the carbohydrate is because those of us lucky enough to be able to follow that route have enough insulin to cover what we eat, so no problem.
Those numbers for blood glucose are really not good at all and really need to be addressed.
 
Resurgam said:
Was there no advice on the amount of carbs to eat for each meal, or any sort of diet plan?
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Pancreatitis doesnt necesarily get advice on carbs.....

Having only been put on a background insulin then it wouldnt really matter what amount of carbs ate really... there could be a difference between 20/200 carbs I agree but no matter what with the diet that thenpartner can eat he is still very high... this is indicating that partners needs a mixed insulin or a bolus regime initially...
Partner needs medic advice rather than minimusing food...
 
The numbers you quote are very high. Especially the 30.2. It may well be that going into hospital for IV insulin until his BG stabilises is the best way to go. I know that insulin dependant T2s who are very poorly controlled on diagnosis often go into hospital to stabilise before they start their insulin regime.

Has anyone tested for ketones? The numbers are high enough to carry the risk of Diabetic ketoacidosis (DKA) which can be very serious if not caught in time.

Anywhere above 15 is getting into a risky area.

I note that the T1s haven't mentioned this yet, but I should keep a close eye on him for any unusual symptoms and be prepared to ring 111 or even head for A&E if in doubt.

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/diabetic-ketoacidosis/#when-to-get-medical-help has some information but seems to assume that you can test for ketones. As far as I know you are usually only set up to do this if you are insulin dependant. Does he have Ketostix or a blood ketone meter?

@Jaylee for a T1 view on this.

I would also look at having his care taken over by the diabetic clinic at the hospital as the conditiopns you describe should not be allowed to happen.
 
LittleGreyCat said:
The numbers you quote are very high. Especially the 30.2. It may well be that going into hospital for IV insulin until his BG stabilises is the best way to go. I know that insulin dependant T2s who are very poorly controlled on diagnosis often go into hospital to stabilise before they start their insulin regime.

Has anyone tested for ketones? The numbers are high enough to carry the risk of Diabetic ketoacidosis (DKA) which can be very serious if not caught in time.

Anywhere above 15 is getting into a risky area.

I note that the T1s haven't mentioned this yet, but I should keep a close eye on him for any unusual symptoms and be prepared to ring 111 or even head for A&E if in doubt.

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/diabetic-ketoacidosis/#when-to-get-medical-help has some information but seems to assume that you can test for ketones. As far as I know you are usually only set up to do this if you are insulin dependant. Does he have Ketostix or a blood ketone meter?

@Jaylee for a T1 view on this.

I would also look at having his care taken over by the diabetic clinic at the hospital as the conditiopns you describe should not be allowed to happen.
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