Type 2 My Return

Stemar 2

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Hi Everyone, Well as the title suggests, I was a member of this forum some 2 years ago and with the help of all the wonderful members and their advice, I was able to get an understanding of my condition. Which assisted me in getting my BGL's down to between 5.8 and 6.5 for around 12 months, plus helped me loose 35 kilos in weight, but then I made the mistake of thinking I had beaten my condition. I have managed to keep my weight down but in the last month or 6 weeks I found myself sleeping between 12 and 16 hours, (2 hour blocks) as I just couldn't motivate myself to do anything at all. So I started to test my BGL's once again as I hadn't really been keeping an eye on them except maybe now and then, well I found they were in the 8's and 9's first thing each morning when I got up, so I'm now aware of my mistake and realise that I need the help of the members of this forum not until I get a grasp of my BGL readings but for the long term, as I also realise that this condition isn't a passing thing it is also here for the long term. So I hope the members will accept my apology for the past and find it in themselves to assist me in my plight to get back to a controllable level once again, Thank You All!
Stemar, Downunder.
 

bulkbiker

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No need to apologise.. welcome back to the fold.. we all make mistakes but you have recognised yours so are back in charge once more. Well done.
 

Stemar 2

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Thank you Bulkbiker, I feel so stupid.
 

Rachox

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Hi Stemar, welcome! I agree with @bulkbiker you’ve taken the first step coming back here. Just in case you need a reminder I’ll tag in @daisy1 for her useful info pack. Ask your questions, there’ll always be an answer.
 

DCUKMod

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Hi Everyone, Well as the title suggests, I was a member of this forum some 2 years ago and with the help of all the wonderful members and their advice, I was able to get an understanding of my condition. Which assisted me in getting my BGL's down to between 5.8 and 6.5 for around 12 months, plus helped me loose 35 kilos in weight, but then I made the mistake of thinking I had beaten my condition. I have managed to keep my weight down but in the last month or 6 weeks I found myself sleeping between 12 and 16 hours, (2 hour blocks) as I just couldn't motivate myself to do anything at all. So I started to test my BGL's once again as I hadn't really been keeping an eye on them except maybe now and then, well I found they were in the 8's and 9's first thing each morning when I got up, so I'm now aware of my mistake and realise that I need the help of the members of this forum not until I get a grasp of my BGL readings but for the long term, as I also realise that this condition isn't a passing thing it is also here for the long term. So I hope the members will accept my apology for the past and find it in themselves to assist me in my plight to get back to a controllable level once again, Thank You All!
Stemar, Downunder.


Stemar, you're not the first, and I would bet the farm you won't be the last to stumble on that bump in the road. I often refer to the forum as having a revolving door. We can enter and leave at will. The door is not locked behind up.

To be honest, I'm sure many will learn from your glitch. We might think "I'd never do that", but every single one of us is at risk of it.

I often think that getting our diabetes into a good place is the easy bit. Not redeveloping looser habits (whatever they are) is the harder, long game, but the longer the good habits last, the less likely they are to slip.

Jump back on the moving train. The scenery is quite good this time of year. :)
 

There is no Spoon

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Hi @Stemar 2
Quick tip might help with the tiredness iron tablets and vitamin b12.
Should help give your system the boost your needing to take on reversing your condition again.

You have done this before second time round should be a walk in the park. ;)
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Stemar, you're not the first, and I would bet the farm you won't be the last to stumble on that bump in the road. I often refer to the forum as having a revolving door. We can enter and leave at will. The door is not locked behind up.

To be honest, I'm sure many will learn from your glitch. We might think "I'd never do that", but every single one of us is at risk of it.

I often think that getting our diabetes into a good place is the easy bit. Not redeveloping looser habits (whatever they are) is the harder, long game, but the longer the good habits last, the less likely they are to slip.

Jump back on the moving train. The scenery is quite good this time of year. :)

I love the revolving door analogy.
 

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Hello and re-welcome. We are human and life sometimes lulls us into a false sense of security. Never mind, you got a handle on Diabetes before so you can do it again.
 

Bluetit1802

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Welcome back @Stemar 2

Quick tip might help with the tiredness iron tablets and vitamin b12.

Before embarking on this, ask your GP for the relevant blood tests for iron and B12. That is my advice.

You have no need to feel stupid. It is a common misconception that our diabetes has "gone away" so complacency sets in.
You've controlled your blood sugars once, you can do it again, and you are in the right place in this forum for any help you need.
 
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There is no Spoon

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Before embarking on this, ask your GP for the relevant blood tests for iron and B12.
Hi Blue,
Am I missing something here are there adverse effects that can come from upping these?
Iron combats tiredness and B12 is the energy vitamin we get from dairy. :bookworm:

Is there an adverse effect if your diabetic, I have read articles that say cut out red meat because the contain Iron but the same articles tell us to eat spinach. :meh::banghead:
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Bluetit1802

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Hi Blue,
Am I missing something here are there adverse effects that can come from upping these?
Iron combats tiredness and B12 is the energy vitamin we get from dairy. :bookworm:

Is there an adverse effect if your diabetic, I have read articles that say cut out red meat because the contain Iron but the same articles tell us to eat spinach. :meh::banghead:
:bag:

There are always effects if we "overdose" anything, no matter whether diabetic or not. My take on it is if we don't need supplements, why spend money on buying them? I do know that very high doses of iron can be fatal, but what "very high" is, I have no idea, and if you take iron supplements, it is wise not to take too much as this could be harmful.

You may be right about lack of iron/B12 being a cause of his tiredness. It could also be high blood sugar levels, or some thyroid problems, or various other things of course, so a visit to the GP may be the best plan.
 

Indy51

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I'd also add Vitamin D3 to the list of tests - I know for me being deficient was a big factor in my tiredness prior to diagnosis. Once I started supplementation, it made a huge difference, even before weight loss or getting good BG control.
 

lindisfel

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Hi no spoon,
High ferritin can be a sign of metabolic syndrome and heart issues.
It is asimple blood test and if you are worried it will put your mind at ease. Your GP will get it done and you can the see if you are mid range.
Not usually a problem with ladies before the menopause or with blood donors.
regards
Derek
Hi Blue,
Am I missing something here are there adverse effects that can come from upping these?
Iron combats tiredness and B12 is the energy vitamin we get from dairy. :bookworm:

Is there an adverse effect if your diabetic, I have read articles that say cut out red meat because the contain Iron but the same articles tell us to eat spinach. :meh::banghead:
:bag:
 

There is no Spoon

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You may be right about lack of iron/B12 being a cause of his tiredness. It could also be high blood sugar levels, or some thyroid problems, or various other things of course, so a visit to the GP may be the best plan.
I see what your saying here. And I'm with you on getting the nutrients you need from food vs supplement.

But as a way to find the energy to combat fatigue as the first step to getting back to grips with tackling T2 I would still say it's sound advice. Fix 1 problem at a time.

IF this is stopping you from doing anything else it the first thing to look at. ;)
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@Stemar 2

Hello Stemar and welcome back. Here, as a reminder, is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask questions when you want and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
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