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lozibobs

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Type of diabetes
Type 1
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Hi. I was diagnosed Type 1 after being admitted to hospital in early DKA in February this year. Assumed to be Type 2 for a few weeks until my GAD came back at over 2000, IA2 1906 & HBA1C 101. I was then started on Lantus & Novorapid.

Self funding the Libre at the moment & successfully (ish) carb counting. Just started to couch to 5k which I’m really excited about. Just looking for general tips on managing exercise with BG levels. I shot right up last night then hypo during the night (which didn’t wake me).

I have poor hypo awareness & tend to not get symptoms until I’m around 3 & this scares me!

Any advice gratefully received
 
Hi and welcome,

I am T2 not on any meds, but am a Libre user, as are many others on here. I find (and others do) that Libre readings whilst in bed can be falsely low depending on whether we are lying on that arm or not. This may not be the case for you, but it is worth bearing in mind, and maybe some finger prick tests during the night might help. Hopefully some other insulin users will be along to advise.
 
Hi @lozibobs Welcome to the site :)

I did the couch to 5k last year, and been running ever since ! Your meter and the libre sensor are your best pals on this one. I started out last year with my levels above 7-8mmol/l and with no novorapid on board, I started off just running for around 15-20 mins and have built it up since then to go faster and for longer distances, so my game plan now is different to back then, now I prefer to have around 10g of carb on board. I always run with glucose on me as well as my libre in case I go low during the run.

Be aware that starting out your muscles will deplete your glucose stores for up to 24 hour afterwards, hence your hypo at night, however the libre can be slightly inaccurate, sometimes I will show a hypo on the libre but it didn't really happen, the only way I know for sure is a sore head and feeling groggy the next day.

Also watch out running in the warmer weather too, it increases your insulin sensitivity so try and pick cooler times to run.

And also - we are all different, what works for me might not for you, different physiologys etc, it's really about keeping an exercise diary and monitoring how your body/bg levels respond.
 
51 years on insulin in Oz.
Hi @lozibobs. Great to see you taking up the baton for exercise.
I know we all try to make our best suggestions but in the end you will choose the one or ones that work for you.
One thing from my experience is that the more vigorous the exercise the more the blood sugars might go up and perhaps crash down later, if there is no adjustment made.
Imagine you are in a rowing boat. If you were to start off trying to go flat out with the oars you can end up with a pretty tippy boat. That 'tippiness' is a bit like how the blood sugars become from the hectic pace.
The reason is that adrenaline kicks in with the hectic pace and causes the stored glucose (= glycogen) in the liver to pour out.
In a non-diabetic, insulin is automatically released to prevent that blood sugar from skyrocketing.
In us the blood sugar goes up, we feel unwell and later the muscles who have depleted their own glucose stores sought of dip a straw into the blood stream and suck up enough glucose to replenish their stores. That fall in blood sugar may cause a hypo, like you experienced.
For me it was better to choose a steadier/ less hectic, less record-attempting pace of exercise. As I became fitter I could up the pace without over-doing it and having blood sugars go up too high.
Also I had three choices given me to deal with the effect of exercise on my blood sugar: 1) eat more food to ensure glucose was available and to preb=vent hypos later on 2) ease back insulin dose(s) which would be working for the time period 6 to 12 hours ahead (as a minimum time span), or 3) do a combo of 1 and 2.
1) Eating during exercising can be a hassle - I still take carbs with me as emergency treatment for hypos just in case, but routinely eating during exercise weighs me down, risks stomach ache and nausea.
2) Reducing my relevant insulin doses say 20% usually gets me by with little in the way of high sugars happening and much less risk of hypos 6 hours plus later.
3) doing 2 above and having something at hand to eat if return home is delayed or the exercise is longer than expected gives me more flexibility.

I second @Juicyj 's comment about hot weather making one's insulin more sensitive also.
Of course if you have prepared to exercise and the heavens open, then the cancelled exercise means having to inject the amount of insulin your dose was reduced by. Not all is lost in the endeavour!
Buy the best running shoes you can afford and try to run on soft surfaces as much as possible to save jarring of your feet and spare injury to your skin and toenails. I am sure your DN will drum good foot care in to you ( I have not forgotten my first lesson and that was from 51 years ago and nurses were much, much fiercer back then !)
Carrying spare food on a run is another challenge. There are of course all sorts of hydration packs and vests these days with pockets etc. But a small flat knapsack can work OK, particularly if it has a moderate waist strap to stabilise things. Glucose tablets in a flat container, bely beans etc. See the Hypo section of this site.
And it is worthwhile to obtain some form of medical info bracelet such as MedicAlert or whatever your DN recommends. This bracelet would state that you are diabetic, note any allergies, and have a contact number for your doctor etc. If you happen to be unconscious for any reason this bracelet helps people know what conditions you have and makes your safety and care and the ambulance, hospital staff's job much easier.
Enjoy your journey, ask for directions along the way, share your triumphs. learn from mistakes, listen to good advice and be kind to yourself!
 
Wow thank you so much, that’s all brilliant information & exactly what I’m looking for. I absolutely loved my first one (apart from the night time hypo). I’m not particularly unfit, I’ve just been too scared to do anything since I was diagnosed & although I’ve lost a massive amount of weight, I don’t feel as good without the exercise so I thought it was time to take the bull by the horns & crack on
 
One omission I made.
If my BSL is 14 mmol/l, or higher I avoid exercise. ( except in an emergency).
Apparently at that level and higher my liver puts out more glucose because it thinks I am starving.
Exercising at these levels sends my BSL up further and I feel mighty sick.
My regime for this is to take a correction bolus of short-acting insulin, usually into the muscle. That way the insulin is absorbed more quickly, brings my BSL down sooner and wears off sooner.
I also check for why my BSL is so high (it is rare),to see if my insulin pump is working correctly and that I am not coming down with a lurgy or infection somewhere.
Once I get to the 10 mmol/l mark I feel much better and do a little exercise to help improve my insulin sensitivity.
To exercise or not to exercise, That is the question.
 
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