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Dave Brierley

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This is my second post as the first one was in the wrong place, but never mind hey. I'm a 55 year old male and I was diagnosed just yesterday and still a little shocked. I think I've had diabetes for a number of years because I would do diy jobs but not have the energy to put the tools away when I had done, I used to joke and tell everyone that I was zausted, but when I had to drink more and wee more and started loosing weightI had an idea of what it was and was correct, my wife managers a nursing home and took a water sample to work and tested it, she found a high amount of glucose in it and said you need to see a Doctor for a blood test.

My fasting blood glucose level is 79 the Doc says average is about 45 and I wonder what the difference is between the numbers, some say their glucose level is 5.5 or 6, so I don't know what to say, is one mol/l?

I'm now taking Metformin and although my cholesterol was low the Doctor prescribed me Astovastatin she did say why but i was suffering information overload by then.

I find the forum really good and have spent all eve looking through diets and other stuff.

Thanks for reading.

Dave
 
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Welcome! Yes, it's a lot to take in. A few of points:
1. Get a copy of your lab results. That will really help when you are asking questions on the forum and doing your own research online. Your surgery will print one for you.
2. The 79 is most likely NOT your fasting test result, but more likely your HbA1c result. 79 mmol/mol is quite high.
3. Get a personal blood glucose meter. You need to monitor what foods cause your blood glucose to spike and reduce or eliminate them from your diet.
4. Your doctor prescribed a statin most likely because the official protocols call for lower cholesterol levels for diabetics than nondiabetics. It would be useful to have your lab results for this.
5. Consider a low carb/high fat diet. For me, this lowered my blood glucose, lowered my weight, lowered my blood pressure, and improved my cholesterol numbers.
6. Personally, I found this site the most useful starting point with respect to type 2 diabetes: http://www.phlaunt.com/
7. Good luck and keep coming back to this forum.
 
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@Dave Brierley

Hello Dave and welcome to the forum :)

Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 130,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
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Dave Brierley

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Hi and thank for the help, looks like I have more reading to do, again thanks for your help everyone.

dave
 
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Welcome Dave.
you are in good hands on this forum.
I know more about diabetes now than my nurse does.and all the advice I have had from the forum has worked for me.
 
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Dave To The Forum.
 
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Hi and welcome to the forum.

Some great advice already, and I can't add any more at this time. You need a bit of space to breathe deeply and take it all in.

As for statins, it is normal for GP's to prescribe statins to diabetics, whether their cholesterol is high or otherwise. You will need to decide for yourself whether to take them once you know what your lipids were - the full breakdown of cholesterol, HDL. LDL and most importantly, your triglycerides.

Do keep posting, and ask questions.
 
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Hi and welcome. Yes, ask the GP to justify the statins. They are not necessary unless your readings are high or you have a family history of heart conditions.
 

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The nurse who is not a diabetic nurse wanted me to have satins my LDL was 2.5 I refused ,with going on the LCHF diet it has gone down to 2 in three months.
 
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Hi welcome :)

I would personally highly recommend reading this post


Well thats one way Andy but personally I prefer the advice given out by the forum which is posted to the newly diagnosed usually by Daisy.

Not everyone wants to eat such a restrictive diet :)
 
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Well thats one way Andy but personally I prefer the advice given out by the forum which is posted to the newly diagnosed usually by Daisy.

Not everyone wants to eat such a restrictive diet :)

It's good to have a choice though, don't you think Sid? Daisy's advice is already on this thread and now Dave has the choice of LCHF too. It's up to him to decide which advice he follows.

LCHF is only restrictive if you keep focussing on what you can't eat, if you look at all the nutritious foods you can eat, then it's much easier to follow.

Personally I prefer to stay off drugs for as long as possible. Not everyone wants to eat the carbs and take the drugs to compensate. Just my own opinion.
 
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Could we get back to helping the OP rather than debate the best information.
The OP has just been diagnosed, and has to assimilate all the information available. Given time and helping him with any questions he may have is the best way forward.
 
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Hi Dave, welcome to the forums .. I think our diet choices may differ from personal experience.. But we all should aggree that you will need to get your own meter .. Homehealth are the cheapest for test strips, so most of us T2's get a Codefree meter from homehealth .. If your going to .. Then hang on and I will fish out the discount code for their test strips.
Remember .. If you don't test you won't know what's affecting your BS .. If you do test you can be proactive in controlling your blood sugars
 

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Personally I prefer to stay off drugs for as long as possible. Not everyone wants to eat the carbs and take the drugs to compensate. Just my own opinion.

Who takes drugs to compensate for the carbs they eat zand? removed personal comments.

For the record I take two metformin a day although quite what it has to do with anyone except me and my doctor I have no idea, unless you are insinuating that you are somehow better than those less fortunate who have to take regular medication for no fault of their own, is that it?
 
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