Newbie - am I heading in the right direction?

nancyb

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Hello - I'm new to the forum and could do with some reassurance!
I was diagnosed with Type 2 three weeks ago and since then I have lost 8 lb by following a low carb diet. During the first week my readings were all between 10 and 16, but in the last few days they have been between 6 and 11.
My question is: can I expect my numbers to go down further if I keep going with the same diet and exercise, or will I still have to go on medication? About how long should I expect it to take to get to normal readings?
I'm seeing the diabetic nurse for the first time next week and I want to avoid all drugs if possible.
 

zand

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Welcome to the forum. :)Well done, I think you've done brilliantly :) Low carb is definitely a good route to go. Your BGs show a vast improvement and my feeling is that they will continue to improve if you carry on doing what you are doing. It isn't good for them to drop too suddenly anyway, so I think yours show a healthy drop already. Do you test 1 and 2 hours after meals to check if anything spikes your BGs more than it should?

I think your diabetic nurse will be pleased with your BG numbers and if you tell her you wish to continue with diet only I don't see why she wouldn't agree to this. As a matter of interest are you very overweight? I ask because metformin is a drug which can help with insulin resistance and therefore aid weight loss when accompanied by exercise. If I were you though I think I would continue as you are for the time being.

Let us know how you get on at your appointment next week and ask us if you have any questions.:)

I'm sure @daisy1 will be along soon to give lots of good info too. :)
 
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Daibell

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You are doing well and should continue with the low carb diet. It is quite likely that you can avoid any meds but only time will tell. Some T2s can control their blood sugar with just diet and other may need diet plus metformin and possibly other tablets
 

nancyb

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Thank you for the replies and encouragement. I have another question now! If I test 1 and 2 hours after a meal, what would be a "good" rise in blood glucose and what would be a spike? I decided to test the effect of my breakfast this morning but I didn't know when to test or what a good result would be. Just groping about in the dark at the moment!
 

this is too difficult two

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When you start testing you are looking to see what effect a meal has on you and perhaps reduce the carb if it is high. you may not be as low carb as you think. Look HERE for an idea of levels. I aim for the non diabetic levels. Best to take it easy at first and see how you get on.
Do you know what your HbA1c result was?
 

daisy1

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Hello Nancy and welcome to the forum :)

Here is the information mentioned by @zand which we give to new members. Ask all the questions you need to and someone will be able to help. Congratulations on your progress so far.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 100,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

nancyb

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Wow, it's great to get all this advice - I'd better get reading!
In answer to some previous questions, my BMI was 27, now 26, so I don't think I'm much over weight but I do intend to lose more.
My HbA1C was 8.1 three weeks ago. Is that quite bad?
 

mo53

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Hello Nancyb you have joined a brilliant forum. The people here have so much knowledge gained from firsthand experience. People here are very kind and supportive.:)
 
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lessci

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With pre and post meal testing you're aiming for a rise of no more than 2 (Ie pre meal 5.5 2 hours post meal 7.5) anything higher counts as a "spike" which could be caused by the quantity of the carbs (inc sugar) in a meal or simply that your body can't cope with that type of carb
 

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Hi and welcome!

Sounds as if you are making fantastic progress. :)

The general rule that some of us use is to try to avoid a blood glucose rise of more than 2 mmol/l after eating. So it you start at 5, then try not to be over 7 at your 2 hour test. And if you start at 9, try not to be above 11 at 2 hours.

It is just a rough rule of thumb, but it is excellent at helping to identify foods that cause spikes, AND it helps to fine tune portion sizes.

Of course the general rules about BG levels that This Is Too Difficult linked to, still apply.
The two ideas together lead to great BG control.
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Wow, it's great to get all this advice - I'd better get reading!
In answer to some previous questions, my BMI was 27, now 26, so I don't think I'm much over weight but I do intend to lose more.
My HbA1C was 8.1 three weeks ago. Is that quite bad?
My HbA1c was 8.3 when diagnosed. 4 months later it was 5.6 through diet alone. So 8.1 is not very bad.:)
 
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