Newbie overwhelmed by her IR diagnosis

[Lamont D]

The OP reports no RH after fasting which would ordinarily produce a liver dump, so there is a risk of paralysis by analysis by doing nothing, or on the other hand using tools known to reduce and reverse IR With fasting IR numbers circa 3 x what Doctors in the low carb realm state they are happy with (Paul Mason, Paul Saladino), I would be minded to act. I got a 118 / 72 for blood pressure at he Doctors this morning, the lowest for me coming from a high numbers years ago. My point is, the literature states not to do heavy weights with hypertension, I have found the opposite is true and not just with blood pressure (always discuss with a healthcare professional a change of activity).

I have reactive hypoglycaemia,, I have fasted for four days straight and I use intermittent fasting every day.
With RH fasting does not cause a liver dump, the stability of bloods is essential in not having hypoglycaemic episodes.
The diagnostic test for RH is a fast, and not going hypo.
A extended oral glucose tolerance test always ends in Hypoglycaemic episodes.

Keep safe

 

[Mbaker]

I have reactive hypoglycaemia,, I have fasted for four days straight and I use intermittent fasting every day.
With RH fasting does not cause a liver dump, the stability of bloods is essential in not having hypoglycaemic episodes.
The diagnostic test for RH is a fast, and not going hypo.
A extended oral glucose tolerance test always ends in Hypoglycaemic episodes.

Keep safe

The previous response was to show what is applicable for one is not applicable to all, even when it is written down as authorative, especially comparing males and females, I for example eat butternut squash, beetroot and some cherries. The bottom line is the high circulating insulin sets one up for all sorts of gateway problems we are all aware of.

I cannot prove it, but there is a chance that removing the IR could resolve the RH.

The OP has additional options now. The worst that can happen is low blood glucose, easily managed in standard ways, the best outcome is reduced / reversed IR, body composition benefits, fitness improvements and the risk reduction of potential complications - the OP now has further non mandated options, with a proven track record, protocol independence and a scientific basis - this combination is hard to find.

 

[Lamont D]

Ok, I concede that everyone is individual and the treatment, dietary or meds should be tailored to the patient's own choices and requirements for a healthy future.
Also in my experience getting rid of insulin resistance does help, because the initial insulin response should be better, but having lost the weight, the body will still respond with the overshoot of insulin if we go up from normal levels.

The previous response was to show what is applicable for one is not applicable to all, even when it is written down as authorative, especially comparing males and females, I for example eat butternut squash, beetroot and some cherries. The bottom line is the high circulating insulin sets one up for all sorts of gateway problems we are all aware of.

I cannot prove it, but there is a chance that removing the IR could resolve the RH.

The OP has additional options now. The worst that can happen is low blood glucose, easily managed in standard ways, the best outcome is reduced / reversed IR, body composition benefits, fitness improvements and the risk reduction of potential complications - the OP now has further non mandated options, with a proven track record, protocol independence and a scientific basis - this combination is hard to find.

The worst that can happen is what I and many others have experienced before diagnosis or still eating carbs. The symptoms increase every time you spike, then go hypo, then spike, then hypo, then spike, then hypo all day, even through the night. What this does to your health because of the high circulating insulin that is not used, that will eventually turn into fat around the organs, the spiral towards really ill health is to keep treating the hypos similar to what a type one or two does, because that way the rebound effect will be awful. I called this period of my life, my hypo hell.
And if I hadn't been referred to my specialist endocrinologist who actually saved my life by advising and pointing me in the direction of this website and take the time to get the proper tests and help me understand what my body's reaction to carbs entails, then, find a resolution to stop me going hypo.
So please understand that with RH, we are non diabetic and our pancreas creates too much insulin in response to carbs. The trick to good treatment is not to do the things that triggers the overshoot. No spike, no hypo, no carbs, no hypo, find out what exercise you can do without going hypo. And make the best of being healthy because you are not continually going hypo.

Keep safe

 

[Mbaker]

Ok, I concede that everyone is individual and the treatment, dietary or meds should be tailored to the patient's own choices and requirements for a healthy future.
Also in my experience getting rid of insulin resistance does help, because the initial insulin response should be better, but having lost the weight, the body will still respond with the overshoot of insulin if we go up from normal levels.


The worst that can happen is what I and many others have experienced before diagnosis or still eating carbs. The symptoms increase every time you spike, then go hypo, then spike, then hypo, then spike, then hypo all day, even through the night. What this does to your health because of the high circulating insulin that is not used, that will eventually turn into fat around the organs, the spiral towards really ill health is to keep treating the hypos similar to what a type one or two does, because that way the rebound effect will be awful. I called this period of my life, my hypo hell.
And if I hadn't been referred to my specialist endocrinologist who actually saved my life by advising and pointing me in the direction of this website and take the time to get the proper tests and help me understand what my body's reaction to carbs entails, then, find a resolution to stop me going hypo.
So please understand that with RH, we are non diabetic and our pancreas creates too much insulin in response to carbs. The trick to good treatment is not to do the things that triggers the overshoot. No spike, no hypo, no carbs, no hypo, find out what exercise you can do without going hypo. And make the best of being healthy because you are not continually going hypo.

Keep safe

Your last 2 sentences are what I am in agreement with, not to discount the experience and mechanisms of RH.

 

[Lamont D]

Your last 2 sentences are what I am in agreement with, not to discount the experience and mechanisms of RH.

Yes, it is complicated and not enough research has been done. It is rare and the usual advice, as with diabetes and the eat well plate, does not work.

Keep safe

 

[finsit]

Hi @Elenas. Fasting Insulin levels below <6 are considered to be desired level and from 6-17 are elevated/borderline. Above 17 are definitely insulin resistant. You being at 17, i would suspect you are insulin resistant and to reduce the resistance, there is multi-regimen approach that you will need to work on including exercise, low-carb diet and some supplements like apple cider vinegar.

I have recently purchased the 2020 version of Dr. Ben Bikman book "Why we get sick". He is authority on insulin resistance and i would highly recommend reading this book. It will give all the answers in one nice book including how to plans.

Probably you can start with this free interview on insulin resistance by Dr. Ben

Best of luck.