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Jillytee

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Hi I'm Jilly and was told I had type 2 diabetes 6 weeks ago after a routine blood test. My blood sugar was 6.8. I have been given zero info from my surgery other than I should try and lose a bit of weight and they'd see me in six months....
So, I Googled it, put myself on a very low carb, high protein diet and have lost 18lbs in 5 weeks. Any advice appreciated, am I doing the right thing and should I test my blood ?? Feeling a bit alone here, don't know anyone else with it.
 

SWUSA_

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I'll tag @daisy1 for you. She will send you some information for newcomers. And yes you are doing the right stuff.
 

Indy51

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Sounds like you're right on track for taking control of your Type 2.

Welcome to the forum :)
 

daisy1

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@Jillytee

Hello Jillytee and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 210,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

Pinkorchid

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Hi I'm Jilly and was told I had type 2 diabetes 6 weeks ago after a routine blood test. My blood sugar was 6.8. I have been given zero info from my surgery other than I should try and lose a bit of weight and they'd see me in six months....
So, I Googled it, put myself on a very low carb, high protein diet and have lost 18lbs in 5 weeks. Any advice appreciated, am I doing the right thing and should I test my blood ?? Feeling a bit alone here, don't know anyone else with it.
Hi and welcome 6.8 would normally be prediabetic over 7 is T2 diabetes so surprised you doctor said you actually have diabetes. Anyway sounds like you have found the right information yourself about diet so well done for that and on the weight loss you are on the right road and could well stay in the prediabetic range
 

Prem51

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Hi @Jillytee and welcome to the forum. GPs use different terms for blood sugar levels. If your bs reading was 6.8 mmol/L it would indicate you are in the pre-diabetic range.
If it was 6.8% you would be in the diabetic range, but your GP would usually want another HbA1c blood test after 12 weeks to confirm your diagnosis.
My guess is that you are probably pre-diabetic at 6.8 mmol/L. If you were diabetic, apart from the 12 week retest, your GP would refer you to the practice/diabetic nurse for diabetes advice, foot tests and eye screening.Youcould ask the surgery for a printout of the results if you had a full HbA1c blood test.
Anyway you have done well to take action by going on a Low Carb diet, your weight loss is good and should mean your blood sugar levels are also reducing.
Yes, it would be advisable to get a blood glucose meter and test yourself. You would be able to find out which foods affect you, and how your bs levels are going.
There is a lot of good advice and support on here, have a read round the threads and ask any questions you want to.
 

Jillytee

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Thanks for the advice Prem51, I had the eye screening last week which was fine and the practice nurse tested the soles of my feet, also fine, and she definitely said I was diabetic. I need to find out where to buy a blood glucose meter, also what levels I should be aiming for. Anyone any ideas about this? Is there a 'preferred brand' of meter?
 

Liam1955

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@Jillytee - Hello and Welcome to the Forum :). A lot of forum members use the SD Codefree Blood Glucose Meter as the Test Strips are the cheapest to buy. (Even cheaper if you buy in bulk) Here is the link:
http://homehealth-uk.com/all-products/codefree-blood-glucose-monitoring
State you have Diabetes for Vat exemption and here in the UK we use mmol/L.
If you buy in bulk Here are the discount codes.
264086 - 5 packs. 975833 - 10 packs
 

Brunneria

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Hi and Welcome, :)

I second the recommendation to look at the SD Codefree. it is a brilliant price - far cheaper than over the counter testers and meters. Delivery of my repeat orders for strips are usually with me in 48 hours, which is usually quicker than I can get to the shops too! :D
 

Prem51

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Thanks for the advice Prem51, I had the eye screening last week which was fine and the practice nurse tested the soles of my feet, also fine, and she definitely said I was diabetic. I need to find out where to buy a blood glucose meter, also what levels I should be aiming for. Anyone any ideas about this? Is there a 'preferred brand' of meter?
OK That means you are diabetic. As @Liam1955 and @Brunneria have said a lot of people on here use the SD Codefree meter as the test strips are the cheapest. Like @phonic2k I use the Accu Chek Mobile which costs around £20. The test cartridges are dearer at around £23 for a cassette of 50 tests, but you can get them cheaper on ebay. I prefer it because I find the lancet easier to use, and the meter seems to be fairly consistent and accurate. It was £17 in the ASDA pharmacy, and you can buy it online from Amazon.
The meter readings will be in mmol/L and you should be aiming to get readings below 7.
 
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Jillytee

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OK That means you are diabetic. As @Liam1955 and @Brunneria have said a lot of people on here use the SD Codefree meter as the test strips are the cheapest. Like @phonic2k I use the Accu Chek Mobile which costs around £20. The test cartridges are dearer at around £23 for a cassette of 50 tests, but you can get them cheaper on ebay. I prefer it because I find the lancet easier to use, and the meter seems to be fairly consistent and accurate. It was £17 in the ASDA pharmacy, and you can buy it online from Amazon.
The meter readings will be in mmol/L and you should be aiming to get readings below 7.
Thanks prem51 I've been looking on Amazon and eBay and also at demos on YouTube, I think I will go for Accu Chek Mobile, it looks simple to use and also very compact, we travel quite a bit so it would be easy to take with me.
 

Wilki.356

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Hi Jillytee.

Welcome to the forum. We're all here to help no matter what your needs. If your here in the UK, you should be able to get everything on the NHS and a medical exemption card for meter, test strips and lancets.
You can search a lot of information on the Internet which there are plenty of videos.
Exercise and careful food intake. Always remember carbs=glucose.
Your levels aren't bad at all so keep up the good work, your doing fine.
 

Brunneria

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Hi Jillytee.

Welcome to the forum. We're all here to help no matter what your needs. If your here in the UK, you should be able to get everything on the NHS and a medical exemption card for meter, test strips and lancets.
You can search a lot of information on the Internet which there are plenty of videos.
Exercise and careful food intake. Always remember carbs=glucose.
Your levels aren't bad at all so keep up the good work, your doing fine.

I am afraid that a lot of us T2s are refused strips and a meter, and have to self fund it.
Not ideal, but unfortunately there is a prevaling belief in the NHS that T2s only need to test if they are on insulin or strong diabetic drugs, so they are rarely provided.

Regarding the exemption certificate, we can only submit that when we are prescribed drugs for our diabetes. So those of us on 'diet and exercise' have to pay for any prescriptions.
 
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Wilki.356

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I am afraid that a lot of us T2s are refused strips and a meter, and have to self fund it.
Not ideal, but unfortunately there is a prevaling belief in the NHS that T2s only need to test if they are on insulin or strong diabetic drugs, so they are rarely provided.

Regarding the exemption certificate, we can only submit that when we are prescribed drugs for our diabetes. So those of us on 'diet and exercise' have to pay for any prescriptions.
I didn't realise that as I'm on medication to control my glucose levels.

Thanks for the info.
 

Jillytee

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Hi Jillytee.

Welcome to the forum. We're all here to help no matter what your needs. If your here in the UK, you should be able to get everything on the NHS and a medical exemption card for meter, test strips and lancets.
You can search a lot of information on the Internet which there are plenty of videos.
Exercise and careful food intake. Always remember carbs=glucose.
Your levels aren't bad at all so keep up the good work, your doing fine.
Thank you so much, I'm 64 so exempt for prescription charges. Going to ask my GP before buying anything, it's worth a try! I've found lots on the internet, think I have info overload at the moment
 

Kittylitter

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Hi I'm Jilly and was told I had type 2 diabetes 6 weeks ago after a routine blood test. My blood sugar was 6.8. I have been given zero info from my surgery other than I should try and lose a bit of weight and they'd see me in six months....
So, I Googled it, put myself on a very low carb, high protein diet and have lost 18lbs in 5 weeks. Any advice appreciated, am I doing the right thing and should I test my blood ?? Feeling a bit alone here, don't know anyone else with it.
I'm getting these numbers after my night fasts too, so I will have to go and tell the GP - I also have the accu-chek mobile and found it a bit difficult to get the blood in the exact right spot to start with, but its ok with practise.
 
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