'Newcastle diet' advice

[kimyeomans]

I just checked my BMI and I need to get another stone and a half off just to be not overweight! The heaviest I can be to be healthy at 5'10" is 12st 7lb... I haven't been that since I was in my teens! now 58...
At least I am now overweight not obese... keep taking the soup..
By the way I am still taking full meds 4 metformin a day. Everything I read and my disinterested GP said it makes no difference, should I try to reduce?
Kim

 

[paulins]

I am like you - need results! Then I will work hard to keep the weight off. Yesterday I began the daily 30 minutes exercise. Tires me out just thinking about it! But I keep thinking about all the health benefits of being the right weight and not just diabetes reversal. Saturday had a big clear out and threw away five pairs of jeans and trousers that were too big - two different sizes. A great feeling! Fasting readings now between 4.8 and 5.2. Will see what I have lost this week on Friday. Keep going as you all motivate me!


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[Alanp35]

I just checked my BMI and I need to get another stone and a half off just to be not overweight! The heaviest I can be to be healthy at 5'10" is 12st 7lb... I haven't been that since I was in my teens! now 58...
At least I am now overweight not obese... keep taking the soup..
By the way I am still taking full meds 4 metformin a day. Everything I read and my disinterested GP said it makes no difference, should I try to reduce?
Kim

If things are going well like weight loss then why rock the boat. Could be that you have an even keel and can now achieve some of,your goals. Keep going.



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[akindrat18]

I am thinking of following the Newcastle Diet using Tesco's Ultraslim Strawberry sachets instead of Optifast or Slimfast. Has anyone else used Ultraslim before.

 

[paulins]

No, but the main thing is to check the sugar, carbs content in each sachet, and also ensure that all the required vitamins and minerals are included. I have also taken a very good vitamin tablet each morning. Good luck.

 

[paulins]

My husband made me a FAB vegetable curry with the veggies and spices allowed on the list from Newcastle. It lasted two meals, and was without doubt the tastiest thing I have eaten since January!

 

[kimyeomans]

Hi akindrat18, not used the tesco ones, when I researched similars to the optifast I came up with the Exante range, available on line, fast delivery quite palatable.
Use the soups as a base sauce to add spices or herbs and pour over the veg. Almost like eating nice food! Go for it, we will support.
I just read posts from Paulins, Andrew, Alan et al. It stopped me having a beer in the pub I am staying in! Thanks all


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[Pipp]

I am thinking of following the Newcastle Diet using Tesco's Ultraslim Strawberry sachets instead of Optifast or Slimfast. Has anyone else used Ultraslim before.

I have used Tesco Ultraslim.
I don't usually like artificial strawberry flavours, but this is quite palatable. I bought a variety of flavours, and add a large spoonful of coffee to vanilla flavour to get a caffeine hit in the morning. Also buy a couple of the ready mixed drinks to take if I am going out. Much easier than trying to mix the powder and milk on the go.

They work well enough and are cheaper than my usual grocery shop.

Pipp

 

[Pipp]

I just checked my BMI and I need to get another stone and a half off just to be not overweight! The heaviest I can be to be healthy at 5'10" is 12st 7lb... I haven't been that since I was in my teens! now 58...
At least I am now overweight not obese... keep taking the soup..
By the way I am still taking full meds 4 metformin a day. Everything I read and my disinterested GP said it makes no difference, should I try to reduce?
Kim

Hey Kim

Well done at not being obese any more.

I think Metformin dose should depend on HbA1c reading, which gives accurate picture of previous 3 months or so blood glucose averages.

If it were me, I would plod on with the meds until HbA1c was in non diabetic range, and a bit more weight loss. Then I would have a serious chat with doc, and if no joy there, get a second opinion or a new doctor.

Sounds as if you are doing really well since our last communication. Sorry I have not been well enough to keep following your posts, but seems like you are getting great support from other forum members. Great stuff guys.

Be well

Pipp

 

[paulins]

Well done Kim! I also smile when I think I am so looking forward to being overweight rather than obese! 4 lbs to go I think! SO worth it though. All readings now in non-diabetic range. Lost 3st 7lbs (49lbs) and only 4 st to go. (Note the ONLY there!). But I will do it!!!!

Pipp - sorry to hear you are not well but so pleased you are back on this forum. Take care.

 

[zand]

Well done Kim! I also smile when I think I am so looking forward to being overweight rather than obese! 4 lbs to go I think! SO worth it though. All readings now in non-diabetic range. Lost 3st 7lbs (49lbs) and only 4 st to go. (Note the ONLY there!). But I will do it!!!!

Pipp - sorry to hear you are not well but so pleased you are back on this forum. Take care.

49lbs! I am so jealous. Some of us are still looking forward to being merely obese! Seriously, though well done ...of course you will do it, you have come so far.

 

[paulins]

Make a chart like Andrew Colvin's one and watch levels and weight and BP fall. I found this very motivating!
Zand - I felt the same as you a couple of months ago and see where I am now! I am motivated by other members who are a couple of months ahead of me. Still am. I have months to go yet.

 

[miriamy]

The point of the diet is to lose weight quite quickly and dramatically in a way that someone with bariatric surgery loses it. The research shows that this can reverse Type 2 diabetes. So, we are trying to do this, but also hoping that if it does not actually reverse, we might go into remission. And if we don't achieve reversal or remission, then we will be healthier and BS levels much lower. It all takes lots of willpower and control which is also good for all diabetics. But of course it may not be for you - and I do hope you find what you are looking for to get control.

I'm interested to hear more about the Newcastle diet. I mentioned it to my do and she got very gruff and serious and said to keep away from it. You need expert medical support which they don't have in Gloucestershire. Are you medically supported? Where can I find out more?
(I'm asking the questions but doubt that I have your resolve!)
Cheers

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[paulins]

Indy51 posted this information:


There is a video that was posted elsewhere on the forum - a lecture by Professor Taylor about the diet:
http://www.fend-lectures.org/index.php?menu=view&id=94

Plus a couple an article with all the relevant links about it by the University:

http://www.ncl.ac.uk/magres/research/diabetes/reversal.htm


Also go the Newcastle University website and find Professor Taylor's pages and there is lots of information there.

Interestingly, it was my GP who directed me to this research! I am monitored regularly and I know myself how I am feeling!!!!! You do have resolve - I ate myself to 17.5 stones! - but you need to get your head to a place that you can do it. Good luck Mariamy.

 

[miriamy]

I ate myself to 17.5 stones! - but you need to get your head to a place that you can do it. Good luck Mariamy.

I was 17.5 stone last May. Took off 25lbs Then put most back on. Now down to 16.3 this week after being back on the wagon for 3 weeks..... Ho hum :O

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[Pipp]

Well done Kim! I also smile when I think I am so looking forward to being overweight rather than obese! 4 lbs to go I think! SO worth it though. All readings now in non-diabetic range. Lost 3st 7lbs (49lbs) and only 4 st to go. (Note the ONLY there!). But I will do it!!!!

Pipp - sorry to hear you are not well but so pleased you are back on this forum. Take care.

Thanks Paulins

I am so envious of you guys who are almost overweight instead of obese!


Being not too well is my default, as I have allergies to lots of stuff, and I am disabled after a spinal injury 20 years ago, but thankfully no longer have blood sugars in diabetic range.

The whole point of the very low calorie diets is that they mimic the physiological response of bariatric surgery. The research in VLCD started to see if they were a viable alternative. I was told that the only way to solve my diabetes and obesity was to have bariatric surgery. I was not going to play along with that, so after stumbling on the Newcastle research persuaded my doctor to support me in giving it a go. I used Lipotrim was monitored by Gp and pharmacy, and within days my blood sugars had returned to non diabetic range. Weight loss was a secondary goal, because I wanted to be rid of diabetes. Total loss on Lipotrim was 42kg. Although I have regained some 7kg in the two and a half years since, having been somewhat immobile after two major operations, I still remain free of diabetes despite still being obese. BMI 40.

My difficulty now I am technically no longer diabetic is that I no longer have the motivation to lose the extra weight. My other health conditions are not as drastic as diabetes, and weight loss will not improve them. So any ideas from any one to get me started again would be welcomed. Having already got rid of my previously massive clothes, It's not about appearance. Nor is it about health, so I am on a plateau that I don't feel inclined to get off.

Cheers

Pipp

 

[miriamy]

Thanks Paulins

I am so envious of you guys who are almost overweight instead of obese!


Being not too well is my default, as I have allergies to lots of stuff, and I am disabled after a spinal injury 20 years ago, but thankfully no longer have blood sugars in diabetic range.

The whole point of the very low calorie diets is that they mimic the physiological response of bariatric surgery. The research in VLCD started to see if they were a viable alternative. I was told that the only way to solve my diabetes and obesity was to have bariatric surgery. I was not going to play along with that, so after stumbling on the Newcastle research persuaded my doctor to support me in giving it a go. I used Lipotrim was monitored by Gp and pharmacy, and within days my blood sugars had returned to non diabetic range. Weight loss was a secondary goal, because I wanted to be rid of diabetes. Total loss on Lipotrim was 42kg. Although I have regained some 7kg in the two and a half years since, having been somewhat immobile after two major operations, I still remain free of diabetes despite still being obese. BMI 40.

My difficulty now I am technically no longer diabetic is that I no longer have the motivation to lose the extra weight. My other health conditions are not as drastic as diabetes, and weight loss will not improve them. So any ideas from any one to get me started again would be welcomed. Having already got rid of my previously massive clothes, It's not about appearance. Nor is it about health, so I am on a plateau that I don't feel inclined to get off.

Cheers

Pipp

Hi Pipp
Your post is interesting reading. I am very keen to establish a sustainable eating and exercising diet that can easily be modified as a lifestyle once I reach the desired Wright and bg's

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[paulins]

Thanks Paulins

I am so envious of you guys who are almost overweight instead of obese!


Being not too well is my default, as I have allergies to lots of stuff, and I am disabled after a spinal injury 20 years ago, but thankfully no longer have blood sugars in diabetic range.

The whole point of the very low calorie diets is that they mimic the physiological response of bariatric surgery. The research in VLCD started to see if they were a viable alternative. I was told that the only way to solve my diabetes and obesity was to have bariatric surgery. I was not going to play along with that, so after stumbling on the Newcastle research persuaded my doctor to support me in giving it a go. I used Lipotrim was monitored by Gp and pharmacy, and within days my blood sugars had returned to non diabetic range. Weight loss was a secondary goal, because I wanted to be rid of diabetes. Total loss on Lipotrim was 42kg. Although I have regained some 7kg in the two and a half years since, having been somewhat immobile after two major operations, I still remain free of diabetes despite still being obese. BMI 40.

My difficulty now I am technically no longer diabetic is that I no longer have the motivation to lose the extra weight. My other health conditions are not as drastic as diabetes, and weight loss will not improve them. So any ideas from any one to get me started again would be welcomed. Having already got rid of my previously massive clothes, It's not about appearance. Nor is it about health, so I am on a plateau that I don't feel inclined to get off.

Cheers

Pipp

Wow! 42 kg! How good is that? And free from diabetes. This is indeed motivation to keep us going.

But there are still health reasons to continue to lose weight Pipp. Blood pressure can suddenly shoot up (I know, mine did), wear and tear on your joints can be a problem, higher risks of heart disease and strokes, increased dangers with an anaesthetic, ect etc etc. The list is really quite long!! But of course you know all of this.

 

[Pipp]

Hi Pipp
Your post is interesting reading. I am very keen to establish a sustainable eating and exercising diet that can easily be modified as a lifestyle once I reach the desired Wright and bg's

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Miramy

I am not sure I can advise, but here goes:

I lost the weight following Newcastle diet two and a half years ago. I have stayed more or less within a range of maximum 7kg of finishing weight. Blood sugars have been stable. I eat low carb, and when I am well enough exercise in water for about an hour 3 or 4 times a week. I have had difficulty keeping to this due to needing two major operations. I also still have a lot of weight to lose, probably at least another 20 kg. As my diabetes has not returned I am somewhat lacking in motivation right now. I could use my slow recovery from last operation as a reason, but that would be milking it as it was in January!

Think we each need to find a method that works for us as we are individuals with different needs and lifestyles, but opinions and advice from this forum do help.

Best wishes

Pipp

 

[Pipp]

Wow! 42 kg! How good is that? And free from diabetes. This is indeed motivation to keep us going.

But there are still health reasons to continue to lose weight Pipp. Blood pressure can suddenly shoot up (I know, mine did), wear and tear on your joints can be a problem, higher risks of heart disease and strokes, increased dangers with an anaesthetic, ect etc etc. The list is really quite long!! But of course you know all of this.

You are so right Paulins

I just need a shift in my way of thinking. Sort of got my "tomorrow head" on at the moment. Will keep reading posts here and I am sure will be inspired.

Thanks

Pipp