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newly diagnoised and very confusied

sukie

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gwent south wales
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Tablets (oral)
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living in wales, all my family live in northern ireland so i miss them very much.
Hi I was diagnoised in December 2013 and since then very little if any help has been offered to me. I have no family or friends in wales so find it very difficult to cope alone. My partner is great but does'nt understand my concerns. I cannot get my head around CARBS, how many should I be having per day and should I be on a low carb diet. I have been looking for a low carb diet book for diabetics but to no avail. I am very worried and upset dont really know where to turn.
 
Hi & welcome.

If you go to your local library & pick up a book on the Atkins diet (low carb) might help. Alternatively go on the Atkins website.

It did take me awhile to find the correct info but everyone on here has been really helpful. Nobody minds giving advice.

Good luck & hope this helps :D

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Sukie,
Welcome. On the subject of carbs, it is dificult to say how many carbs you should be (or not be) eating. Best way to proceed would be to try to cut back on sources of sugars and starchy foods a good booklet is carbs & Cals http://www.amazon.co.uk/Carbs-Cals-Count-Calories-Photos/dp/1908261064
if you could post your diet for a few days someone her could suggest what to trim/substitute. my WoE is maybe a bi exrem but I eat 60-100g carbs/day but anything below 120 could be judged low carb.
 
Hi Sukie and welcome to the forum:)

This information which we give to new members should be helpful to you. You will also get lots of information from members.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 70,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi. Do look at Daisy's advice and links. Typically those going low-carb on the forum would go below 200gm/day and many go below 100gm/day. Basically you need to go as low as needed to get any excess weight down and to reduce your blood sugar. Have low-GI carbs where you can. The sort of foods to avoid in large quantity are bread, pasta, any white flour based bakery products. potatoes, other root veg and a few other things. If you haven't already got a glucose meter do get hold of one as this can tell you what foods affect you and by how much. There is a lot of info on this website and the web in general; just Google Low-GI, Low-Carb etc
 
If you know how to carb count you shouldn't have to be on a low carb diet, they teach you this in dafne
 
Nearly everyone who is newly diagnosed is confused. There is little practical advice from the health service and you seem to wait for ages for what advice there is. My GPs surgery gave me some leaflets produced by Diabetes UK and it was nearly 3 months before I was asked to attend a Desmond course, not that that was particularly informative as they told someone who asked what they should eat, 'we don't tell you, we leave it up to you'.

The first thing you need to find out from your GP is what your figures are, either your fasting blood plasma readings or your hba1c or both if possible. Then you need to start trying lower carb foods, starting with cutting out all the obvious sugary stuff, choc bars, sweets, biscuits, sugary drinks etc and also refined carbs, white bread, white rice, mashed potatoes, pasta and so on. To start with, whilst you learn, stick to complex carbohydrates or carbs with a low GI and test, with a meter to see what effects they have on you. It takes a bit of time for things to settle down but over the weeks you should see an improvement in your readings to the fasting reading you got from your GP. Learning by testing what you can and cannot eat, is an important step but its highly individiual. Not only do we all have different metabolisms but none of us know the extent of the damage that occured before diagnosis so, what works for one person may not work for another.

Prepare your own foods where possible because you can control what goes in and have a look at the recipe section on this forum.
 
thanks to everyone at last I have found someone to talk to and help me understand a little more, my GP just handed me paperwork and said all will be explained if red (gibberish to me) so I will be driving everyone mad with my questions. THANKS
 
Hi. Do look at Daisy's advice and links. Typically those going low-carb on the forum would go below 200gm/day and many go below 100gm/day. Basically you need to go as low as needed to get any excess weight down and to reduce your blood sugar. Have low-GI carbs where you can. The sort of foods to avoid in large quantity are bread, pasta, any white flour based bakery products. potatoes, other root veg and a few other things. If you haven't already got a glucose meter do get hold of one as this can tell you what foods affect you and by how much. There is a lot of info on this website and the web in general; just Google Low-GI, Low-Carb etc
thanks for advice will google tomorrow,
 
Hi,

Where in Wales are you from? I'm in South Wales :)

I was diagnosed in November 2013 and I still feel confused most of the time. But the time I spend confused is gradually reducing and I'm finally starting to feel a bit more normal the past week and some days I actually feel like I know what I'm doing! It's taken a lot of confusion, change and tears to get to this point but it really does get easier. Not necessarily every day but definitely
more often.




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