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Newly diagnosed but confused by the diabetic nurse

Discussion in 'Newly Diagnosed' started by JackieCarroll, Aug 24, 2017.

  1. Squire Fulwood

    Squire Fulwood Type 2 · Expert

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    With respect to T2 diabetes only, a great deal of money is spent establishing wrong/no dietary advice, making three million people ill and giving them tablets that don't do anything except giving quite a lot of people adverse side effects. Also, those three million people (UK) have foot checks, eye checks, blood tests, courses on how to avoid fat and while they are at it they are given blood pressure pills.

    The papers by Dr David Unwin are revealing. He and his wife took a group of patients, put them on low carb while he weaned them off of pills he didn't think they needed. He now has a group of lighter patients who feel well and he has saved a lot of money. I haven't got the exact figure but I think it's around £40,000 all because he uses fewer pills.

    If all of that was rolled out across the country we wouldn't have the impending disaster which is repeatedly forecast.
     
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  2. Bash_

    Bash_ Type 1 · Newbie

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    If you have type 2 visit your GP (take charge, it's your body and know body has a greater interest in it than you) and insist they supply either the tester or at least the test strips that you require, but ensure you read up before hand tel 0800-701000 and I've used most of them all of worth over the past 43 years. I'd suggest this model or ease and travel as the Accu-chek mobile as it does not require test strips for every test as it's a cartridge style 50 per pack and the finger device is both soft click and records the data for you. The others are very similar, but hope this helps. PS if the GP do not supply the actual tester, just buy it as the real cost is the test cassettes in any case. The batteries are issued free by Accu-check
     
  3. Bash_

    Bash_ Type 1 · Newbie

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    I'm not getting this, it pays to look after your body and as I advised someone else just a few minutes ago

    If you have a confirmed type 2 visit your GP (take charge, it's your body and know body has a greater interest in it than you) and insist they supply either the new tester or at least the test strips that you require, please ensure you read up before hand suggest tel 0800-701000 and I've used them all of worth over the past 43 years. I'd suggest this model or ease and travel as the Accu-chek mobile as it does not require test strips for every test as it's a cartridge style with 50 tapes per pack and the finger device is both soft click and records the data for you. The others are all very similar, but hope this helps. PS if the GP does not supply the tester, just buy it outright as the real cost (as you rightly state) is in the test cassettes. Keep testing and keep cool, but it already sounds like you have improved your diet. Things could be worse I'm type 1 (43 years) with Coeliac 2 months now that's a challenge I can assure you. Kind regards Mr B
     
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    Bash_ Type 1 · Newbie

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    Yes the Freestype Librelink, but not available at present on prescription. Next best option is the Accu-chek mobile this model for ease and travel as the Accu-chek mobile as it does not require test strips for every test as it's a cartridge style with 50 tapes per pack and the finger device is both soft click and records the data for you. The others are all very similar, but hope this helps. PS if the GP does not supply the tester, just buy it outright as the real cost (as you rightly state) is in the test cassettes. Keep testing and keep cool. Kind regards Mr B.
     
  5. Squire Fulwood

    Squire Fulwood Type 2 · Expert

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    Re my earlier post. I have looked up the All Party Parliamentary Group on Diabetes minutes and stole this paragraph.

    "There are 6 GPs in the Norwood practice. They are the cheapest practice in Southport in terms of their drugs bill for diabetic patients and yet they are getting wonderful results: 74% of their patients with T2D have the highest level of control of their diabetes, despite the fact that the practice is spending £40,000 less each year than other practices (see slide 2)."

    Dr David Unwin and his wife are driving this initiative.
     
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  6. Chook

    Chook Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I'm so pleased he's getting recognition for this - he really put his job on the line!! Well done that man.
     
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  7. JackieCarroll

    JackieCarroll Type 2 · Active Member

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    I am desperate to avoid Metformin which has made my husband nauseous for 15 years!

    I'm also struggling on the exercise bit because I have really bad knees and hips. However, I've just pumped the bike tyres up and will have a go. Not sure the sight of a 63 year old wobbling on a bike will be good for the locals but hey ho!!
     
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  8. JackieCarroll

    JackieCarroll Type 2 · Active Member

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    I've just purchased the Codefree tester - the strips seem reasonably priced so I cope with that.
     
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  9. Chook

    Chook Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Jackie, I can't exercise either (arthritis) so I know where you are coming from. Last time I tried riding a bike I fell off.

    As far as I am concerned the low carb way of eating is the only way I keep my blood glucose down to the levels I've achieved in the last couple of years. In that time I've come off of most of my T2 meds, including not now having to inject insulin 5-7 times a day. Its a life changer. x
     
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  10. JackieCarroll

    JackieCarroll Type 2 · Active Member

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    I have a strange diet. I don't eat breakfast except the occasional fry up at the weekend (which strangely doesn't increase my levels too much), I have a sandwich for lunch (has always been brown bread) and two satsumas or tangerines and a meal in the evening. I suspect my T2 was through the snacks and sweets I would eat in the evenings. I don't ever (and never have done) drink non-diet fizzy drinks. I always eat brown rice and have now started eating brown pasta (which is gross).

    I am confident I can lick this and get back to normal ranges but the craving for sweets is immense :(

    I appreciate your help y'all - thank you.
     
  11. JackieCarroll

    JackieCarroll Type 2 · Active Member

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    I might ride in the dark so no-one can see me :)
     
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  12. JackieCarroll

    JackieCarroll Type 2 · Active Member

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    Sorted - thank you :)
     
  13. Chook

    Chook Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Sorry to say, but its most likely to be the bread in the lunchtime sandwich and the fruit - although snacks and sweets won't help. Brown rice sends my BG very high as down brown pasta.

    The reason your fry up isn't increase your levels is because a fry up (apart from baked beans and fried bread) is mainly low carb.
     
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  14. JackieCarroll

    JackieCarroll Type 2 · Active Member

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    JackieCarroll Type 2 · Active Member

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    If you cut out carbs what do you eat that won't leave you hungry after an hour? Salads are not the answer for me.

    Sent from my SM-A320FL using Diabetes.co.uk Forum mobile app
     
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    Guzzler Type 2 · Master

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    You will find the cravings for sweeties etc at first very hard to ignore but it is surprising just how quickly your body will get used to not having them. When I first cut all the treats out it was only about a month of craving then it slowly subsided to this point in time I really don't think about it unless I am in the cake aisle of M&S.
     
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    ringi Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Lot of green vegs, berries (blue berries etc) are also OK. fruit a few times a week may be OK for you, but never fruit juice.

    Meat, fish, cheese, olives, without trying to avoid fat. Also, put a little butter on your veg.


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    see also https://phcuk.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Fruits-Sugar-Equivalent-Infographic.jpg and https://phcuk.org/wp-content/upload...Lifestyle-For-Weight-Loss-Patient-Booklet.pdf
     
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  18. Chook

    Chook Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Chook Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I mainly have a salad for lunch with meat, cheese, fish or some other kind of protein.

    My evening meal tends to be hot veg (cauli, broccoli, runner beans, any above ground veg) with chops, steak, salmon fillets - sometimes I'll make a bolognaise or chilli and have that with cauli rice. I've been low carbing for two years and got my blood down from 32+ down to the 4s, 5s and 6s.

    My husband (bless him) decided my food looked nicer than his so he voluntarily asked to eat the same as me. (He's not T2)
     
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    OrsonKartt Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Putting the costs of testing into perspective

    I test 3-10 times per day, depending what I'm trying to figure out.

    I buy an expresso coffee at my local cafe around 5 times per week this costs me £5, which is about how much it costs me to test. I'm far from rich so buy test strips with very close sell by dates when I can.

    I know everyone is not in the fortunate position to be able to afford coffee nor to be ill in the UK due to the ongoing privatisation of the NHS. Sometimes life is not easy, we do what we can. At least here the information is given genourously and openheartedly.
     
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