Newly diagnosed type 2

sarah1282

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Hello I was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes a week ago I was put on tablets 3 times a day 500ml they didn't work so 3 day's ago I was put on 850mls 3 times a day and my sugar levels are still high. Im worried as to why it's not working. Has anyone else had this problem? ??

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daisy1

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Re: Newly diagnosed type 2

Hi Sarah and welcome to the forum :)

Please tell us which tablets you have been prescribed so we can try and help you. You do also need to be careful with your diet so here is the information we give to new members which I hope will be useful to you.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

sarah1282

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Re: Newly diagnosed type 2

Sorry im on metformin 850 mg 3 times a day. Ive completely changed my diet no crisps sweets chocolate :( lol im eating brown bread instead of white and ive been doing 20 minutes of exercise an evening. I dont know what more I can do.

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Daibell

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Re: Newly diagnosed type 2

Hi Sarah. Sadly the Metformin won't have a dramatic effect. It will help but only by about 1-2 mmol; perhaps a bit more if you are very much overweight. I assume you are following a low-carb diet overall? It looks like you are trying to do the right things. Hopefully your sugars will slowly come down. If they don't the doc can add other tablets. Let us know if you are quite young and not overweight
 

sarah1282

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Re: Newly diagnosed type 2

My dr did say I might need 2 different tablets. Im 31 and I am over weight but not obese I would say a stone over weight. I think im just panicking ive had to change my lifestyle dramatically and I think its just hitting me. Im just worried that the tablets wont work and what happens if they dont.
Thank you to everyone who's giving me advice it really does help x

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BobCornelius

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Re: Newly diagnosed type 2

Hi Sarah1282,

Welcome to the forum!

There are other drugs your GP can factor in beside metformin.

Metformin helps your body to use insulin, it is also good for blood pressure and weight loss! There are other drugs which can squeeze more insulin out of your pancreas, which is then better utilised by metformin.

No need tp panic, there are many more avenues out there to explore, until the the one that works for you is found!

:)

Bob
 

Daibell

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Re: Newly diagnosed type 2

Hi. It can be quite scary when the blood sugar goes up and the tablets don't appear to work well enough. It is important to be aware that there are a range of diabetes types within 'T2' from the insulin resistant, overweight patients to those with defective insulin production and not overweight and those in between. In most cases the right diet which means low-carb and smaller portion sizes is the most important priority in keeping blood sugar down. It sometimes isn't enough and tablets need to be added and eventually insulin for some. I've just moved over to insulin this week as my tablets aren't coping. Many T2s will never need insulin or not for many, many years. Insulin isn't the end of the world with painless injections with a needle you can hardly see (amazing!). So, don't panic as diet really does help even though it can be frustrating and it does take time for your weight to come down.
 

garythegob

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Re: Newly diagnosed type 2

2 questions! 1, i am over weight, approx 113kg, (at 1 stage i was 135kg)i am 5ft 10, i want to lose weight as i Dont really want to go on insulin as i drive for a living, not hgv, just standard cars, but can cover anything up to 500 miles a day, could someone give me some idea what my total daily carbohydrates intake should ideally be

2, if i do end up having to go on insulin, what restrictions will be put in place on my driving licence, and he i have hypos, will i automatically lose my license, and if so, for how long?

I am currently on
4x 500mg metformin
4x 80mg Gliclazide
1x 75mg aspirin
2x 5microgram byetta

Hba1c 9.3 last week
Cholesterol 3.2
Only ever had 1 hypo 3 years ago, due to my own stupidity taking meds before evening meal, getting phone call from friend with pc problems and going to sort it out without eating, was out for 5 hours came home and went straight to bed without food, woke up with tremors, sweating, blurred vision, confused state and bg of 1.3mmol, house mate heard me and got me to drink half pint of water with 6 teaspoon of sugar, 20 minutes later bg was 5.8!

Looking forward to replies


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sarah1282

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Re: Newly diagnosed type 2

Thank you all so much its definitely made me feel better knowing other people understand me I think I expected it all to work over night but seeing what others have said I know I will be ok so thanku x

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Daibell

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Re: Newly diagnosed type 2

Hi Garrythegob. There is no fixed view of daily carbs, but I go for 150gm/day max but some people stay well below 100 and even 50! Ref DVLA, inculin and HGV, I can't comment on the HGV aspect and you need to go to the DLVA website, but for normal driving the form asks for info on 'severe' hypos i.e. those needing assistance from others (unless you could have helped yourself in which case ignore it). So for standard driving it isn't too onerous apart from needing to measure blood before driving and every 2 hours.
 

MCMLXXIII

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Re: Newly diagnosed type 2

Diabell, another great name!

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MCMLXXIII

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Re: Newly diagnosed type 2

United Metropolitian Improved Hot Muffin and Crumpet Baking and Punctual Delivery Company.:lol:

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elaine77

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Hi Sarah have you had full bloods done as in have they checked your c-peptide levels and checked for any antibodies in ur blood? Many people are being diagnosed as type 2 when in fact they could be type 1.5 and for some type 1.5s the medication taken for type 2 just will not work because insulin resistance is not always the main problem.... If you have had the bloods done and are defo type 2 then I wud defo ask why they're not working for u... I got put on gliclazide when I was first diagnosed and after 2 weeks demanded to be changed as I cudnt get my levels below 9 mmol no matter wot I ate or did... There are sum horror stories about gliclazide completely destroying ur pancreas too which isn't the best thing to hear!

Good Luck!


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sarah1282

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Re: Newly diagnosed type 2

Hi elaine my dr did some blood tests all I know is my hba1c level is 75?????? Im seeing him again on Thursday im just getting frustrated that I xant get my levels below 12 no matter what I do.

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sassywriter43

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Re: Newly diagnosed type 2

Hi Sarah

Welcome to the forum.

I am really sorry that the tablets are not helping. I would demand a c - peptide test, as you say you are not that much overweight, and only in your 30's. As someone else has suggested, you may be type 1.5.

If not and you are type 2, why not try the LCHF there is an excellent forum, I believe Viv explains the diet well in the Low Carbohydrate section and there are also some excellent recipes there.
 

sarah1282

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Re: Newly diagnosed type 2

Thank you sassy im definitely going to ask for that test on Thursday. Im going to look at that website now
Thank you x its nice getting advice from people that understand xxx

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