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Newly Diagnosed

SusieH1973

Newbie
Messages
4
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
So I was diagnosed with Type 2 on Wednesday going straight in with a HBa1c of 67.

I will be referred to the DESMOND scheme but am keen to start understanding/doing something as soon as I can.

I guess my starting point is feeling embarrassed and ashamed - as well as annoyed at myself.

I’ve started reading up on type 2 but really confused. Is it avoiding sugar or carbs or both? Should I be testing my blood? The doctor prescribed Metformin 1 per day for a week, then 2 building up to 4 per day in week 4 but said to watch out for hypos. How do I know this?

Sorry for all the questions but feel really uninformed about everything.
 
Hi and welcome, tagging @daisy1 for the welcome pack.

It is a lot to get your head around but it gets easier. Avoid sugars and carbs. Yes get yourself a meter @Rachox has some good info.

You are doing the right thing in getting to grips with info before Desmond. Ignore their dietry advice.
 
Hi,
You won't have hypos on Metformin, not sure why your dr told you this.
You need to avoid sugar and have low carb.
Welcome to the forum.
Please don't feel ashamed or embarrassed, it is an illness like any.
Take care
 
So I was diagnosed with Type 2 on Wednesday going straight in with a HBa1c of 67.

I will be referred to the DESMOND scheme but am keen to start understanding/doing something as soon as I can.

I guess my starting point is feeling embarrassed and ashamed - as well as annoyed at myself.

I’ve started reading up on type 2 but really confused. Is it avoiding sugar or carbs or both? Should I be testing my blood? The doctor prescribed Metformin 1 per day for a week, then 2 building up to 4 per day in week 4 but said to watch out for hypos. How do I know this?

Sorry for all the questions but feel really uninformed about everything.

hey welcome here Susie , don´t be so hard on yourself, no-one gets diabetes purposely... it is such a shock initially to almost all of us, but the good thing is that in this forum you can learn to control it and most can get back to normal levels of blood glucose when they learn to twist their diet in a low carb direction...
 
Hi Susie and welcome!
Here are some meters that are popular on the forum:

Taken from a post by @Bluetit1802 as she wrote it so nicely:


The most popular meters for self funding T2's are the Codefree and the Tee2 because the strips are much cheaper than other meters, and you need a lot of strips. You can't buy them in pharmacies.


Try here for the Codefree meter

http://homehealth-uk.com/product-category/blood-glucose/blood-glucose-monitor/


and here for the extra strips

http://homehealth-uk.com/all-products/sd-codefree-test-strips-to-be-used-only-with-the-sd-monitor/


There are discount codes if you buy in bulk.

5 packs 264086

10 packs 975833


The Tee2 is here

http://spirit-healthcare.co.uk/product/tee2-plus-blood-glucose-meter/


Don’t forget to check the box that you have diabetes so you can buy VAT free. (for either meter)
 
I’ve started reading up on type 2 but really confused. Is it avoiding sugar or carbs or both? Should I be testing my blood? The doctor prescribed Metformin 1 per day for a week, then 2 building up to 4 per day in week 4 but said to watch out for hypos. How do I know this?
Welcome to the forum @SusieH1973. It's unlikely you will have hypos. They usually only happen when your blood glucose level goes below 4 mmol/L. The only way to know you are going that low is by getting a blood glucose meter and monitoring your bg levels.
Obviously you should avoid sugar, but starchy carbs turn to glucose in our bodies, so as a Type 2 you also need to avoid or restrict carbs. Try to only eat foods with 5 gms or less of carbohydrates per 100 gms.
Don't feel embarrassed, ashamed or annoyed with yourself. We all go through a whole range of emotions on being diagnosed as T2 diabetic, but it's not your fault. Some people are pre-disposed to developing T2 due to various factors, and by sugar and carbs being added to almost all foods these days.
But it can be controlled, have a read round the threads and ask any questions you want. The people on here are friendly and supportive and you will get a lot of good advice.
 
Hi Susie @SusieH1973 welcome to the group.:) You don't have to feel embarrassed, ashamed and annoyed with yourself Its a condition that can happen to anyone. Its great that you have found this forum, you will get plenty of help, advise and support on here. We have all been in your situation and know how you feel.;) Ask as many questions as you like we are all with you.:happy:
 
@SusieH1973@xfieldok

Hello Susie and fieldok and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 
Hello.
First things first - all of the best people were born in 1973. Others may disagree but they are wrong. So you are already in one exclusive club, you may as well join another.
Lots of good practical advice already posted but I will sum up my (so far so good) approach to T2 as
- go low carb as much and as soon as possible
- test before and 2 hours after meals
- don’t overanalyse every test result - long term trends matter
- exercise a bit more but don’t overdo it
- drink lots of water
- use this site/ community for education and support. Maybe join in a couple of the daily threads as it’s habit forming and keeps your mind on the plan
- don’t be ashamed. I felt that way but when I started to tell people it got easier
I wrote a blog in the blog section of this site about my first 50 days - you may find it helpful.
 
Wow! Thanks to everyone for so much support and help. Had a good Google this afternoon about low carb foods - seems I have to lay off fruit, I ate a lot thinking it was good for you! going to miss raw carrots too!
Monitor arriving tomorrow as I am a control freak so need to get on top of this.
Having a good poke around these forums too which are fab. Thanks everyone
 
Wow! Thanks to everyone for so much support and help. Had a good Google this afternoon about low carb foods - seems I have to lay off fruit, I ate a lot thinking it was good for you! going to miss raw carrots too!
Monitor arriving tomorrow as I am a control freak so need to get on top of this.
Having a good poke around these forums too which are fab. Thanks everyone
I don’t want to confuse you further but you don’t have to lay off fruit altogether- just be aware what you are eating, it’s carb content and portion control. When you start testing regularly you’ll find out what you react to and what’s ok. A few berries with some cream or full fat yogurt is a delicious and healthy dessert choice.
 
Ah yes! I’d read about berries being okay - and some sorts of melon - both of which make me happy. I can easily eat two apples a day though (will usually have one after lunch and would reach for one if I was peckish between meals) and was staggered to find how many carbs are in an apple?
 
Hi SusieH, my story is much the same as yours. Diagnosed 5wks ago with type 2. Totally cross and ashamed of my self, although my GP didnt help matters! He basically told me to go away and eat 800 calories a day for eight weeks and lose two stone. I ended up on Metformin two weeks ago. I have been reading like mad as no support from the GP. So not been eating carbs or suger and have lost nearly 1 1/2 stones in five weeks. Bought myself a gadget to read blood sugers. x
 
Download the mySugr app and record your readings and food. After a few days you will get an estimated HbA1c. It is a really handy app.
 
Oh and blueberries too - tell me just a few are okay occasionally?
I sometimes have blueberries maybe 8 or so but eat them with Greek yoghurt or cream as fat slows the absorption of the carbs. Just test different combinations to see how they affect you.
And I definitely agree with @xfieldok about the MySugr app. It’s great to watch the trend of the estimated HbA1c :)
 
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