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this is too difficult
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Then they will be hbA1c tests
Brilliant. According to the chart I have from Basildon and Thurrock University Hospitals, your control of your diabetes has gone from well into the very poor range to midway into the good range.
sanguine
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Hi Jan, welcome. Don't panic, we all started in a similar position, this can be managed.
Firstly, most advice from GPs and DNs on T2 is rubbish. They follow the Eatwell Plate dogma which includes the ridiculous (for diabetics) advice to eat carbohydrates with every meal. Carbohydrates are the enemy and might just as well be sugar.
So you need to cut carbs, especially bread, pasta, potatoes and rice. Many here follow a low carb high fat (LCHF) diet with good results. Don't be scared about the fat, you need to make up the calories you no longer get from carbs. See www.dietdoctor.com/LCHF for more info.
Get yourself a test meter (such as the SD Codefree from Amazon or EBay - the strips are the best value) so you can test your BGs before and after meals to judge their impact - this is your main tool for managing your diabetes. Most T2s don't get them prescribed so we have to buy our own.
As for what foods to eat, check the labels and try and stick to those that have less than 5g carbs per 100g. Ignore the 'of which sugar' bit, it's the total carbs we are interested in. There's a great book called Carbs & Cals which is nothing but photos of foods and meals with carb, fat and calorie counts.
You may find it daunting at first, but read around the forum and ask as many questions as you like. Help is at hand.
Firstly, most advice from GPs and DNs on T2 is rubbish. They follow the Eatwell Plate dogma which includes the ridiculous (for diabetics) advice to eat carbohydrates with every meal. Carbohydrates are the enemy and might just as well be sugar.
So you need to cut carbs, especially bread, pasta, potatoes and rice. Many here follow a low carb high fat (LCHF) diet with good results. Don't be scared about the fat, you need to make up the calories you no longer get from carbs. See www.dietdoctor.com/LCHF for more info.
Get yourself a test meter (such as the SD Codefree from Amazon or EBay - the strips are the best value) so you can test your BGs before and after meals to judge their impact - this is your main tool for managing your diabetes. Most T2s don't get them prescribed so we have to buy our own.
As for what foods to eat, check the labels and try and stick to those that have less than 5g carbs per 100g. Ignore the 'of which sugar' bit, it's the total carbs we are interested in. There's a great book called Carbs & Cals which is nothing but photos of foods and meals with carb, fat and calorie counts.
You may find it daunting at first, but read around the forum and ask as many questions as you like. Help is at hand.
this is too difficult
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At last.
Thanks so much guys I already feel better informed and your data re carbs and fat sounds more sensible and do able, she told me today no fat no sugar but eat carbs and protein and it didnt sound very exciting lol as im not a bread/potsto petson anyway unless the latter come in a little bag with cheese and onion flavouring lol.
this is too difficult
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The NHS diet does not seem to work for "many" of us.
this is too difficult
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Yes. I never got an appointment before they pronounced me cured, but if I had I doubt I would be in this position.
this is too difficult
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It is a complete readjustment. Give it a week or two and it will seem easy.
sanguine
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You did! Muesli (cereals in general) is baaad for most diabetics, especially the wheat. Some can tolerate a little porridge but it's an individual thing. And low fat is not healthy for us - you will find that nearly all low-fat products have added sugar - go for the full fat versions every time. Best yoghurt is plain Greek yoghurt.
In practice it's difficult to avoid some foods with more than 5g/100g, but try not to exceed 10.
Daibell
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Hi and welcome. I'm afraid the advice you were given ref diet was completely wrong and typical of the NHS. All carbs need to be kept sensibly low and you certainly don't need to have carbs with every meal unless you want to make your diabetes worse. The meter you were given will convince you of that if you test 2 hours after a carby meal. Protein is fine and so are fats in sensibly quantity. They don't increase blood sugar in any measurable amount and it's carbs that cause high cholesterol and not fats to the same extent. Initially you might want to aim for 150gm/day of carbs and alter that depending on your meter and HBa1C results. Have low-GI carbs where you can
this is too difficult
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Yay. here comes the cavalry.
Listen to them.
Listen to them.
this is too difficult
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No that's silly.
What would the point be?
It would only tell you what your bg is at that point, not what causes highs or how to fix it.
What would the point be?
It would only tell you what your bg is at that point, not what causes highs or how to fix it.
this is too difficult
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It should be before and after every meal at least until you find out what different foods do to your bg. I don't test as much now because most of my meals are very low carb.
