CollieBoy
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- Lancashire
- Type of diabetes
- Type 2
- Treatment type
- Diet only
- Dislikes
- Hi carb Foods
Granted, but it would be nice if they could triage us to those who CAN help!
Granted, but it would be nice if they could triage us to those who CAN help!If everyone on this forum got together and made a list of everything physical (or mental) they have ever been concerned about, removed all the duplicates and further thinned the list down to only those things we sought medical advice on, I doubt there is any one single Doctor in existence who could diagnose everything. To train someone to do that would take more years than possible.
They are General Practitioners and like a plumber they need to go through a process to diagnose the problem. Even plumbers will, on occasions, scratch their **** and say "I have no idea what's wrong" and just replace the area the problem is in. Through experience they learn and have a higher diagnosis rate but will never be able to catch everything.
As an example, last year my 15yr old, fit and healthy, daughter was rushed to hospital with what, the paramedics were convinced, was a stroke. After all the scans and tests the consultant could not say that it was a stroke. She could not say for certain what it was and why it happened. It was referred to one of the best neuro's in the country and, again, no diagnosis.
Before dismissing GP's as a joke when they are uncertain remember that they, on a daily basis, catch things that save lives or prevent suffering and like the rest of us are human.
I have no problem with someone admitting that they don't know but it's when they try and cover it up or are dismissive about the issue. This ha happened to me people can't hypo on metformin - yes they bloody well can if the dose age they're on is too high 3.4 first time and 2.6 second even after reduction of metformin and god knows what would have happened if I hadn't purchased my own meter and gone to bed - diabetic coma?!) a friend of ours was summarily dismissed no your child can't be diabetic it's rare. But there is t1 in my immediate family. Go home and give him some calpol. She took him up A&E who admitted him instantly - bs 89!!!!!!! And said if she'd left it any later he would have died. He was then 8 years old.If everyone on this forum got together and made a list of everything physical (or mental) they have ever been concerned about, removed all the duplicates and further thinned the list down to only those things we sought medical advice on, I doubt there is any one single Doctor in existence who could diagnose everything. To train someone to do that would take more years than possible.
They are General Practitioners and like a plumber they need to go through a process to diagnose the problem. Even plumbers will, on occasions, scratch their **** and say "I have no idea what's wrong" and just replace the area the problem is in. Through experience they learn and have a higher diagnosis rate but will never be able to catch everything.
As an example, last year my 15yr old, fit and healthy, daughter was rushed to hospital with what, the paramedics were convinced, was a stroke. After all the scans and tests the consultant could not say that it was a stroke. She could not say for certain what it was and why it happened. It was referred to one of the best neuro's in the country and, again, no diagnosis.
Before dismissing GP's as a joke when they are uncertain remember that they, on a daily basis, catch things that save lives or prevent suffering and like the rest of us are human.
I can't stand these kinds of doctors and have told them so before now.
I go on the defensive straight off if the guy I'm seeing is wearing a bow tie ... I mean come on seriously!
Of course that is dependable on the individual. The advice most would give on this site is eat to your meter! There is no strict dietary advice. Only what brings your BSLs down to controllable levels. What works for one probably won't work for me.How about the eat loads of fat and drop the carbs rote, if I did that I would be sitting in the loo permanently with a bleeding bum, its a case of to each their own diet, yes a reduction in carbs is a given but for those who's body cannot take the high fat bit its poison
Hi Satindoll. The problem on the forum in recent months is the frequent quote of a 'LCHF' diet approach which is not helpful to those who don't understand where it came from. What the posters normally mean by LCHF is definitely Low-Carb but not necessarily High Fat. It's a term I never use because it implies stuffing yourself with fat which may not be very sensible. So, I take you point and would encourage more use of the term low-carb rather than LCHF unless the poster really means it. Much better to increase both fat and protein to a level needed to maintain calorie input.Yes and I still maintain there mare many on here who in the second line after hi so and so the cut the carbs and go high fat is spouted regardless.
I've done nothing of the sort. I wouldn't dream of it I entered into a discussion freely and it is my opinion.@Daibell Maybe we could ask them to look at the quote and change it to LCLC instead.
Oh and Nosher8355 blocking me won't make me disappear or change my views.
I've done nothing of the sort. I wouldn't dream of it I entered into a discussion freely and it is my opinion.
I'd rather not change your mind and debate the issue. Free will free choice free opinions. Sorry if I came across like that!
I'm very good at losing them! Ask the wife!Good oh I love an animated discussion
When I told him I couldn't eat cereal for breakfast because it sent my BG into double figures, he said, it can't do that, and when I told him that I've tried it several times and tested afterwards with my meter, he told me point blank that it wasn't possible and that cereal is GOOD for diabetes, seriously??!!
He then said, of course if you're eating sugar puffs for breakfast then it will raise your BG. I'M A DIABETIC, WHY WOULD I EVEN CONTEMPLATE EATING SUGAR PUFFS???!!
I despair of our health system sometimes, I really do think I'm much better educated about health issues than many off our so called health professionals, their knowledge seems scarily dated, it's worrying, and I always end up so upset after these bloody appointments.
I believe the problem with a many so called experts in many different fields is that they have an exaggerated idea of their own cleverness and importance but are also basically insecure so they have to "show off" their apparent knowledge and skill. Those who are truly knowledgeable don't need to put on this act - they can often be quite humble in fact - and are willing to be educated further when required...
Hi Satindoll. The problem on the forum in recent months is the frequent quote of a 'LCHF' diet approach which is not helpful to those who don't understand where it came from. What the posters normally mean by LCHF is definitely Low-Carb but not necessarily High Fat. It's a term I never use because it implies stuffing yourself with fat which may not be very sensible. So, I take you point and would encourage more use of the term low-carb rather than LCHF unless the poster really means it. Much better to increase both fat and protein to a level needed to maintain calorie input.
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