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no more cheese ?

What utter utter ****.... and from the BBC too.
You just need to drink a pint of fresh for the cow milk to see how lovely it tastes.
And then it gets turned into cheese, a sensational way of preserving milk in some many different ways.
Having read this I now know that is one Podcast to stay well away from... more matter how hard it is.
As if dairy farmers don't have enough to put up with. :banghead:
 
What I find fascinating is that the 'nutrition experts' did not really give a solid (sorry for the pun) scientific reason to limit or avoid cheese.
I guess that if you have lactose intolerance there may be a limit to how much one can tolerate.
One mentioned fat without going into any detail.
None mentioned cultural practices or survival practices of use of dairy (thinking about Mongolia) beyond the 'animals do not continue having milk into adulthood, so why should we?' approach.
 
Well, an awful lot of people are lactose intolerant (basically most of the people of non northern European origin).
https://milk.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000661

So I can see why it's not great for them. (And arguing that it tastes so...o good isn't really valid: sugar tastes great but most of us on these boards have had to learn to treat it with extreme caution.) Personally, I love cheese, and it's the main reason I would have against going vegan (not even vegetarian at the moment, but I could give up meat far more easily than cheese).

I do love cheese, not sure if my body does.
 
Tipetoo said:
Being discussed here already

https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/evil-cheese.159853/
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One merely has to see the name Michael Greger (a vegan and carb denier to boot) to appreciate the degree to which this diatribe is biased.
He is the bloke who wrote Carbophobia: The Scary Truth Behind America's Low Carb Craze (2005) which I would love to read but I cannot bear to put a shekel in the author's pocket. However, anyone who has a copy that they haven't used in the loo are welcome to pass it on to me, P & P paid.
 
Today's newspaper food scare story is Sugar (Sucrose) particularly with regard to children. Surely Cows Milk is also Sugar! (Lacose)
 
rmz80 said:
Today's newspaper food scare story is Sugar (Sucrose) particularly with regard to children. Surely Cows Milk is also Sugar! (Lacose)
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but we all know that the only sugar which exists in a harmful form is that white granulated stuff, and nothing else counts!!! (yep, sarcasm)

or, as my DN used to say, carbs are not the same as sugars (headdesk)
 
DavidGrahamJones said:
I like the way that you almost get to the end before he mentions a 30 year old lactose intolerance. Say no more!
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Well, milk is bad for lactose intolerant people just as carbs are bad for carb intolerant people such as T2s :). He probably forgets that some people aren't lactose intolerant just as some of the folk on here forget that some folk aren't carb intolerant .....
 
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