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AshrafUM920

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Type of diabetes
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Hi,

As I have mentioned before about fatty liver and it was 166 alt in August and I have now received my blood test results for November and its now 145. I'm more concerned that my doctor has written no action needed, I ain't getting nowhere, haven't been given no advice from them. I know that If my liver is so high at 145, that my diabetes wont be any better either if I dont resolve the liver problem I cant have good diabetes levels. I'm fed up really.

I know my blood sugar levels aren't going to get better If my liver alt is 145, its supposed to be <42
 
UsmanMo96 said:
Hi,

As I have mentioned before about fatty liver and it was 166 alt in August and I have now received my blood test results for November and its now 145. I'm more concerned that my doctor has written no action needed, I ain't getting nowhere, haven't been given no advice from them. I know that If my liver is so high at 145, that my diabetes wont be any better either if I dont resolve the liver problem I cant have good diabetes levels. I'm fed up really.

I know my blood sugar levels aren't going to get better If my liver alt is 145, its supposed to be <42
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Whoa, hold up...! Your liver isn't going to get fixed overnight, neither will your bloodsugars. Look at those numbers again. 166 or 145? That IS an improvement. One that quite a few of us get told isn't remotely possible. "No action needed" often just means there's little the doc can do. They can't fix a fatty liver, there's nothing for that (save weightloss), so they can't perscribe anything until it escalates into cirrhosis of the liver... Then action is needed, because that can kill.

What you need to do, is take a moment and give yourself one heck of a pat on the back. This is a significant improvement! And you did it! No advice from them, well, fine, whatever, who needs them anyway?! You're rocking this on your own! (Really. This is good! Be proud of yourself!)

Hugs,
Jo
 
Absolutely agree with @JoKalsbeek. This is progress ... and you haven't even been on a low carb diet very long. Keep going and see what another three months of eating this way will bring.
 
JoKalsbeek said:
Whoa, hold up...! Your liver isn't going to get fixed overnight, neither will your bloodsugars. Look at those numbers again. 166 or 145? That IS an improvement. One that quite a few of us get told isn't remotely possible. "No action needed" often just means there's little the doc can do. They can't fix a fatty liver, there's nothing for that (save weightloss), so they can't perscribe anything until it escalates into cirrhosis of the liver... Then action is needed, because that can kill.

What you need to do, is take a moment and give yourself one heck of a pat on the back. This is a significant improvement! And you did it! No advice from them, well, fine, whatever, who needs them anyway?! You're rocking this on your own! (Really. This is good! Be proud of yourself!)

Hugs,
Jo
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That is my worry, if it leads to cirrhosis, I have changed my diet and my blood sugars are not better and I'm just thinking about thats due to the fatty liver. I'm trying to lose weight, I'm happy with the improvement I'm just worried because I'm young and I feel I need to fix this issue.

I appreciate your message thank you :)
 
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You liver reading has dropped by over 10% in a month!

That is most definitely getting somewhere.
Imagine where you will be in a year or two, if you give yourself the chance.

Your body didn't spontaneously change from normal to fattyliver/T2 in a month, did it? It took years to develop.
Give yourself, and your liver, a chance to recover.

Controlling our health and our T2 is a marathon, not a sprint.
 
Brunneria said:
You liver reading has dropped by over 10% in a month!

That is most definitely getting somewhere.
Imagine where you will be in a year or two, if you give yourself the chance.

Your body didn't spontaneously change from normal to fattyliver/T2 in a month, did it? It took years to develop.
Give yourself, and your liver, a chance to recover.

Controlling our health and our T2 is a marathon, not a sprint.
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Thank you I appreciate your message, I will continue and see what my levels. I haven't lost much weight in a month so maybe more weight loss will help too.
 
UsmanMo96 said:
Thank you I appreciate your message, I will continue and see what my levels. I haven't lost much weight in a month so maybe more weight loss will help too.
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Personally, my view is that lower insulin levels will help you burn fat (both from your liver (and your pancreas) as well as from your body). Eating low carb helps lower insulin levels, but achieving lower insulin levels might take a while, they don't drop overnight. Wouldn't be surprised if you also see weight loss accelerate if you stay with the woe.

If you want to read more on this, Jason Fung and Ben Bikman might be a good start.
 
ziggy_w said:
Personally, my view is that lower insulin levels will help you burn fat (both from your liver (and your pancreas) as well as from your body). Eating low carb helps lower insulin levels, but achieving lower insulin levels might take a while, they don't drop overnight. Wouldn't be surprised if you also see weight loss accelerate if you stay with the woe.

If you want to read more on this, Jason Fung and Ben Bikman might be a good start.
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I shall give them a look, I have been following Dr Unwin too, i know it will take time I have been diabetic 5 years now, but I did have a slightly higher hba1c in 2012 at 42 but diabetes with medication for 5 years so I shall try my best
 
I had really bad None Alcoholic Fatty Liver (NAFL),
This was a major concern for my GPS, dsns, dieticians and every other medical practitioner until I met the specialist endocrinologist who diagnosed me.
He told me not to worry about this if I reduced my carbohydrate intake sufficiently to lower my insulin levels, he said the same for insulin resistance.

What happened after I adopted a very low carb diet, I lost weight, my insulin resistance lowered, my insulin levels dropped, my liver became less fatty and my health improved considerably.

You probably don't have to go as low carb as I did.
Just keep reducing them, reduce your plate size and increase your exercise levels a little more. Baby steps will get you there. Be patient!

Which foods cause the biggest spikes? if you know, then you're half way there by cutting back on the amount you eat!
Do you eat a lot of fruit?

Hope that helps.
 
Lamont D said:
I had really bad None Alcoholic Fatty Liver (NAFL),
This was a major concern for my GPS, dsns, dieticians and every other medical practitioner until I met the specialist endocrinologist who diagnosed me.
He told me not to worry about this if I reduced my carbohydrate intake sufficiently to lower my insulin levels, he said the same for insulin resistance.

What happened after I adopted a very low carb diet, I lost weight, my insulin resistance lowered, my insulin levels dropped, my liver became less fatty and my health improved considerably.

You probably don't have to go as low carb as I did.
Just keep reducing them, reduce your plate size and increase your exercise levels a little more. Baby steps will get you there. Be patient!

Which foods cause the biggest spikes? if you know, then you're half way there by cutting back on the amount you eat!
Do you eat a lot of fruit?

Hope that helps.
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Nope, I cut out bannana and I have apples occasionally, I'm struggling to lose the weight I go to the gym 4x a week I would like to lose 6.2kg every year I aim to lose weight but I seem to struggle, I'll lose 2kg then I'll put it back on. Hopefully I'll figure it out. Thanks
 
Can you tell us what you eat in a typical day please?

Personally, I would drop the apple just as I would a hot potato.
 
xfieldok said:
Can you tell us what you eat in a typical day please?

Personally, I would drop the apple just as I would a hot potato.
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I have have a few eggs for breakfast and spinach and some other greens on the side, then I'll have chicken or fish for dinner with more greens and I'll have a snack too almonds or cashew nuts.
 
Some of us have experienced erratic blood sugar levels because of strenuous exercise!
Liver dumps could be triggering glucose, when you could really do without it!

And you're right, we have to find that fine balance of how we process what we eat and our blood sugar levels.
 
Cashews are a bit too high carb for me which is unfortunate because they are my favourites, especially honey roasted. Ah those were the days.

I have scrambled eggs for breakfast along with either bacon or black pudding. When I first started I couldn't tolerate black pudding, but now can take a small enough portion to keep me happy.

I did find, when I first started I thought I could judge a lot by eyesight. This was a big mistake and did much better when I weighed everything.
 
xfieldok said:
Cashews are a bit too high carb for me which is unfortunate because they are my favourites, especially honey roasted. Ah those were the days.

I have scrambled eggs for breakfast along with either bacon or black pudding. When I first started I couldn't tolerate black pudding, but now can take a small enough portion to keep me happy.

I did find, when I first started I thought I could judge a lot by eyesight. This was a big mistake and did much better when I weighed everything.
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You're doing well, your hba1c is good I'm trying to get my hba1c down to the 30's currently I'm 62
 
UsmanMo96 said:
You're doing well, your hba1c is good I'm trying to get my hba1c down to the 30's currently I'm 62
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You are trying to hard in reducing your hba1c fast by halving it, do it in steps, get into the 40's first then go from there.
 
I drastically reduced my initial hba1c from 122 to 35 in 4 months. However, this can cause problems in some people.. it depends on so many variables. We are all different and you need to concentrate on what is best for you. It is, as others say, a marathon not a sprint.
 
xfieldok said:
I drastically reduced my initial hba1c from 122 to 35 in 4 months. However, this can cause problems in some people.. it depends on so many variables. We are all different and you need to concentrate on what is best for you. It is, as others say, a marathon not a sprint.
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That's true we're all different.:)
 
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