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Paleo Diet!

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diabeticchicken

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Hey,

My friend is diabetic and he's had this diet reccommended to him. I was wondering if anyone has tried it before?

It sounds apsolutely amazing from what i've read so far....

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Fascinating. Had heard of it before but this is well-explained and easy to understand. But it does not offer specific advice for diabetics as to diet unless I missed something. 8)
 
Isn't this just another Atkins type thing?
 
If you want to live on nuts berries and roadkill thats fine, but I don't think its for me thanks :D
 
Don't suppose anyone made a note of the links before they were pruned?

If you did, please PM them to me.

Cheers,
-Pat.
 
Google is your friend Patch, paleo diet = live like a cave man (palaeolithic) Probably quite good if you can live that way.
 
Well, I am partial to a bit of Mammoth (only on special ocassions...) :wink:
 
Paleo diet is the principle on which I base my eating. It's the food we evolved with. We have no mechanism for digesting raw grains or pulses. They are foods we've only lived with for about 10,000 years and we haven't evolved to eat them.
I eat those foods I could eat raw, even if i chose to cook them. All meats come into this group, but cereals and sarchy roots don't.
Hana
 
I didn't see the links before they were removed but Patch - I've got friends in low carb places. I know a couple of good ones. I will PM them.
Some of the principles of Paleo with the great wisdom of Dr Bernstein gives me a pretty acceptable non medicated A1c.
Knowledge is power.
Alison
 
I think I would rather eat my healthy low fat, low GI/GL diet than faff about with some fad diet TBH. Still if that's what you want .......
 
diabeticchicken said:
Its a health thing rather than some weight loss program,...
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Atkins and paleo are different versions of low carb eating. Atkins is a "health thing" too, not just for weight loss.
 
cugila said:
I think I would rather eat my healthy low fat, low GI/GL diet than faff about with some fad diet TBH. Still if that's what you want .......
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Why is it a fad diet? Are you able to produce any non-bias, non dairy evidence of a link between fat and poor health?
 
diabeticchicken said:
Are you able to produce any non-bias, non dairy evidence of a link between fat and poor health?
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What has high fat got to do with a Paleo diet? Palaeolithic man eat a diet of mainly nuts, berries and occasional lean meat, fat was unavailable.

However in answer to your question, you just have to ask any cardiologist about fat and diet to get the answer, and before you say all cardiologists are wrong, I would rather believe my cardiologist than you thanks muchly :D
 
Sid Bonkers said:
diabeticchicken said:
Are you able to produce any non-bias, non dairy evidence of a link between fat and poor health?
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What has high fat got to do with a Paleo diet? Palaeolithic man eat a diet of mainly nuts, berries and occasional lean meat, fat was unavailable.

However in answer to your question, you just have to ask any cardiologist about fat and diet to get the answer, and before you say all cardiologists are wrong, I would rather believe my cardiologist than you thanks muchly :D
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I assume your refering to Cordain. He has recently changed his stance on fat. Animals hold large amounts of fat, therefore the diet is high in fat.

I have spoken to cardiologists before. They are generally blind to the facts by what they have been told all their lives. I recently had a discussion with one cardiologist who kept spowting opinions on diet rather than actual fact. No one is capable of producing any non-bias, non-dairy evidence of a link between fat and poor health...because there isen't any.
 
Yes animals do contain fat, but animals in the past contained a lot less than they do today. Modern animals are bread for qiuck growth and quick weight gain and lead sedentary lives that build up fat. The animals in our food chin today bear no resemblance to the animals that our ancestors hunted and ate.

Thousands of years ago animals lead a nomadic life and so were a lot leaner, with more muscles than they are today. They also took longer to reach maturity and had themsleves eaten a very difererent diet to todays farmed animals - even free range meat is nothing like the meat the paleolithic people ate. And of course they had eaten no chemicals or modern medicines that many animals have.
 
anniep said:
Yes animals do contain fat, but animals in the past contained a lot less than they do today. Modern animals are bread for qiuck growth and quick weight gain and lead sedentary lives that build up fat. The animals in our food chin today bear no resemblance to the animals that our ancestors hunted and ate.

Thousands of years ago animals lead a nomadic life and so were a lot leaner, with more muscles than they are today. They also took longer to reach maturity and had themsleves eaten a very difererent diet to todays farmed animals - even free range meat is nothing like the meat the paleolithic people ate. And of course they had eaten no chemicals or modern medicines that many animals have.
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Hmm yer good point. But still fat is our primary energy source so we eat it first. Also because there are 9 calories to 1 gram of fat and 4 calories to 1 gram of protein we had more to gain from eating fat.
 
diabeticchicken said:
I assume your refering to Cordain. He has recently changed his stance on fat. Animals hold large amounts of fat, therefore the diet is high in fat.
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Never heard of him :? as has been said already in palaeolithic times animals were not able to lay down fat reserves so were in fact very lean.

diabeticchicken said:
I have spoken to cardiologists before. They are generally blind to the facts by what they have been told all their lives. I recently had a discussion with one cardiologist who kept spowting opinions on diet rather than actual fact. No one is capable of producing any non-bias, non-dairy evidence of a link between fat and poor health...because there isen't any.
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Whatever :roll:
 
diabeticchicken said:
cugila said:
I think I would rather eat my healthy low fat, low GI/GL diet than faff about with some fad diet TBH. Still if that's what you want .......
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Why is it a fad diet? Are you able to produce any non-bias, non dairy evidence of a link between fat and poor health?
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Why would you think I need to justify my opinion about the Paleo diet ? You asked for peoples opinions about the thing.......so that's what you are getting. There are many types of diets which are 'fads', some people believe all the hype.......I for one don't. What I have read about it has convinced me it's a non-starter as far as I am concerned. I'm not a cave man and I like to pop into my local Tesco or Asda or my local Greengrocer for all my dietary needs. I move with the times......I live in the 21st Century so don't feel the need to go back in time just because some person somewhere on this Planet thinks I should. I don't need to justify how or what I eat to anybody but myself. Like I said if you think it's a good thing then go ahead....... whatever makes
you feel good.

As somebody else pointed out here, to me the consumption of too much fat is something that I just will not do........I eat a certain amount but it is restricted because I have seen the actual results of what fat can do to your Arteries. I had a triple by-pass in 2004 because my Coronary Arteries were furred up ! What makes you think I am going to listen to some lay person telling me fat isn't bad for you. I believe the experts, my Cardiologist, my Endocrinologist. My choice, my own health.

It is just another 'fad' diet as far as I am concerned. I eat healthily, plenty of variety and more to the point much more choice about what I eat and drink. My diet is my lifestyle. That suits me and many other people. If the Paleo diet was so popular how come many people haven't even heard of it ??
 
cugila said:
diabeticchicken said:
cugila said:
I think I would rather eat my healthy low fat, low GI/GL diet than faff about with some fad diet TBH. Still if that's what you want .......
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Why is it a fad diet? Are you able to produce any non-bias, non dairy evidence of a link between fat and poor health?
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I have seen the actual results of what fat can do to your Arteries. I had a triple by-pass in 2004 because my Coronary Arteries were furred up ! What makes you think I am going to listen to some lay person telling me fat isn't bad for you.
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Thats the opinion that you have had in your mind since 2004. Therefore it is well and truely lodged in your head. It is not fact.

cugila said:
If the Paleo diet was so popular how come many people haven't even heard of it??
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First of all its a relatively new idea. It also completly goes against what people think. Heres an example - You take someone who has been told something all their life (religion for example) and you tell them something different. Because they have believed it all their life and they think it has constantly proven their opinion has become cemented. The more a persons belief is backed up i.e. working in medical research the more difficult they are going to find it to change their opinion. Also some people just flat out don't care about their health.
 
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