This is fascinating stuff, but where does ketosis fit into this?
It would like to run my glycogen reserves down far enough that I switch to ketosis. I don't manage it much (but I get there for a few days, now and then), but the more consistently I am in ketosis the better I feel.
Is your advice different re the replenishing of glycogen reserves, under those circumstances?
Thanks for the luck ColdEthyl. And no my name didn't come from a song at all I'm afraid.I have to ask, did you take your name from the Cope song?
Hope the eye op goes well when it comes. x
Thanks for the metformin idea. It has worked twice now. My BG did settle later in the day so stress might have been a factor.Hi there sunspots!
Yay! Another guinea pig.
Great that taking metformin in the evening helped.
I had a thought about your higher BG level at the eye hospital, and wondered if it might have been a bit of a rise from the exercise and a little anxiety for the eye exam
You won't know for sure unless you do the same again with perhaps a slightly more leisurely walk and without the eye hospital thrown into the mix.
Just out of interest, did your bloods come back down nicely later on in the day?
There is a substantial link between dawn effect and higher HbA1c. That rise, although small, causes an even greater increase in risks of complications. A recent editorial from America suggested the risks are such that insulin should be used to manage it if nothing else works.Just wondering...
Why is that morning reading so important? Is it because the body should in theory be low BG as it's not eaten all night and therefore if higher, we are more at risk?
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Thanks sunspots xThere is a substantial link between dawn effect and higher HbA1c. That rise, although small, causes an even greater increase in risks of complications. A recent editorial from America suggested the risks are such that insulin should be used to manage it if nothing else works.
There is a substantial link between dawn effect and higher HbA1c. That rise, although small, causes an even greater increase in risks of complications. A recent editorial from America suggested the risks are such that insulin should be used to manage it if nothing else works.
Everything I've read says cashews should be eaten with caution!!
Here's my spreadsheet of carb values for your reference....
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I've dug out the editorial http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/814001Just wondering...
Why is that morning reading so important? Is it because the body should in theory be low BG as it's not eaten all night and therefore if higher, we are more at risk?
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Diagnosed prediabetic Easter 2014. Just left to get on with it, no guidance or help from GP. Every day I'm learning something new.
I've dug out the editorial http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/814001
oops didn't spot that this also references the same place, sorry.I've dug out the editorial http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/814001
Thanks Bebo, I find your advice very encouraging amidst the confusing science of blood sugar. What would an example of high intensity exercise be though? At the moment, I like walking, swimming, rebounding and step machine, but not sure how to incorporate high intensity into that? Also, is it a good idea to eat something to prevent the liver kicking in/or not?Glad to help if I can,
Moderate intensity exercise is fine (let's face it any exercise is great) - just elevating you heart rate a little is good enough to help you manage blood glucose levels and improve overall well being.
High intensity exercise - if you are able, involves elevating your heart rate much more and actually has far more health benefits. Unfortunately it also comes with a down side, and that is that when your heart rate is elevated your body's stress response kicks in, and a cascade of events causes your body to call on your liver to dump a load of glucose into your bloodstream. Probably an evolutionary bonus when you are trying to outrun a predator, but not so great when you are trying to improve blood glucose readings and general fitness levels!
What you will find however is that the resulting reduction in blood glucose levels and insulin sensitivity is far more evident with even a short burst of intensive exercise compared to a longer period of moderate exercise.
You ask about exercise in the morning vs evening - really it's down to what works best for you. What I would say though is that the beneficial effects of exercise (lowered blood glucose levels and greater insulin sensitivity) last much longer for intense exercise. If you could your manage blood glucose levels, then a workout that includes an element of intense exercise could actually work for you in the morning, and you would still enjoy the benefits for up to 24hrs!
Really the very best way to get the most out of exercise is to combine a fairly early burst of intense exercise with a period of moderate exercise. Give your body time to warm up - burst of energy, then easy 20mins cool down to help bring your blood glucose level back down again.
You mentioned vinegar not working for you? Try taking a drink when you have elevated blood glucose readings from exercise and it it likely to help, because it aids glycogen replenishment (that means it helps switch your body into 'fuelling' mode - taking glucose back out of the blood and into glycogen depleted muscle and liver cells)
Sounds like you've done a great job of finding out what works for you - get the exercise combination right and you'll be rocking!
Keep up the good work Tweetypie!
oops didn't spot that this also references the same place, sorry.
@Brunneria - where are you upto in your experimentation?
Thanks Bebo, I find your advice very encouraging amidst the confusing science of blood sugar. What would an example of high intensity exercise be though? At the moment, I like walking, swimming, rebounding and step machine, but not sure how to incorporate high intensity into that? Also, is it a good idea to eat something to prevent the liver kicking in/or not?
Thanks !
A difference of 6.5 to 6.6 is barely worth discussing since meter tolerance can vary more than that.Hi all,
BS 2 hours after dinner last night 6.5, first thing this morning 6.6!!! Is this the dawn phenomenon or has it continued to rise in the night then dropped this morning?
At 6.6 is breakfast going to push it too high?
Very confused.
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Hi Brunneria, it sounds like the Brazils on waking thing are working for you. Much as I don't want to,I'm going to give them a try too.I've gone sadly off the rails with my testing this week. Worked from home for some of this week, and that messed up my normal schedule (I frittered the extra time away by sleeping through it!) that I repeatedly forgot to test my BG ...
But I'm still munching the Brazils, and what testing I've done, is showing the same level of improvement.
Next week I may (just may) do a wee spot of exercise at night. Shudder.
I know, I know, it goes against some very deep seated principles, but...
Sigh.... In the interests of science...
I AM a martyr!!!
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