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PORRIDGE made with water or low fat milk?

Discussion in 'Diabetes Discussions' started by BaliRob, Jan 17, 2019.

  1. Geordie_P

    Geordie_P Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Oats are packed with glucose, and they can spike later than 2 hours if they are slow-release i.e you test 2 hours after and you are a pleasing 6.5, but then it goes up later, unobserved.
    If porridge doesn't spike you, then great, but I'd definitely tread carefully.
     
  2. BaliRob

    BaliRob Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I cannot take your advice for full fat because of CHF - I started porridge oats on hearing about the Starbucks Report and found that that breakfast was the only food to give me steady readings at c. 6+ until 5pm each day when I always take a late lunch (my main meal of the day) - I would very much like to be lower than that but as
    soon as I enter the 5.0 category I start on the road to hypo - this has always been the case as long as I have been a diagnosed Diabetic. Also, porridge coincided with taking myself off Metformin when my bloods immediately STABILISED for the very first time! @HSSS - thank you so much for your input.
     
  3. Listlad

    Listlad Prediabetes · BANNED

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    @*Anna
    Burgen...I have eaten that in the past and quite liked it. Is that good for those with diabetic tendencies. Does it help.
     
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  4. HSSS

    HSSS Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Sorry what’s CHF?
     
  5. *Anna

    *Anna Type 2 · Member

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    Hi @Listlad, I'm only just recently been diagnosed so it's a bit all new to me at the moment, trial and error! Bergen bread doesn't spike at all with me. It's linseed and soya bread, filling, low carb and high omega 3 (cholesterol lowering) and it's so nice!
     
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  6. Listlad

    Listlad Prediabetes · BANNED

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    Me too. I am new to all this.

    I used to regularly buy the Bergen bread just a few years ago but stopped for a couple of reasons. But I bought it because I enjoyed it.

    Interesting to note that it doesn’t spike you. Thanks for that info.
     
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  7. HSSS

    HSSS Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    You may be lucky, hope for your sake it this, but rather than getting a nasty shock at some later point can I just check you’ve checked at several time intervals after eating the bread? Not just 2 hrs but 3 or even 4. For some people the spike still comes but later and if you’re not aware of that possibility you could be raising those levels up unknowingly than at hb1ac time have no idea why it’s higher than anticipated.

    It’s not actually low carb per se. Just lower than normal for bread.
     
  8. *Anna

    *Anna Type 2 · Member

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    Hi, thanks for your reply. I don't have it daily, and it's 1.8g sugar per slice.I keep my carbs to around 15 per day (not sugar) and with the exception of that porridge, the Bergen slice, doesn't spike at all. Due end of Feb for my hb1ac, so it'll be interesting. I have learnt so much from these forums and website and really appreciate your support @HSSS X
     
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  9. HSSS

    HSSS Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    It’s 11.8g of carbs per slice (26.9%) and that’s what you need to see not the sugar. Pretty much ignore the sugar listings. All carbs matter. I’m surprised if you get no high spikes at all at any time from it but pleased for you - and jealous - if that’s the case

    http://burgenbread.com/breads/soya-linseed
     
  10. LittleGreyCat

    LittleGreyCat Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    As @HSSS says, I don't think you are counting your carbohydrates correctly.

    If I read you correctly you are having 11.8 grams of carbohydrate from the slice of bread, then considerably more from the porridge. This disregards whatever else you eat during the day. So I suspect that your carbs are well above 15 (grams) per day.

    Could you, perhaps, post what a normal day's food is for you to give us a better idea?
     
  11. BaliRob

    BaliRob Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    @HSSS - sorry, have not been back until now - CHF - is the very common heart ailment - Congestive Heart Failure usually caused by Diabetes.
     
  12. HSSS

    HSSS Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Ah. Sorry to hear that. Is the fat thing the typical advice that fat causes high cholesterol and heart disease we’re used to hearing (wrongly it seems from more recent research) or specific to this problem?
     
  13. Crocodile

    Crocodile Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I'm lucky to be OK with porridge. Must be the traditional rolled oats that you soak overnight. Always full fat milk.
     
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    Listlad Prediabetes · BANNED

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    I microwave mine. Is that no good? Do you find microwaved porridge an issue?
     
  15. sarah_chadwick

    sarah_chadwick Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I make porridge with water then mix a greek yogurt to make it nice and creamy, adding berries for some extra flavour.
     
  16. Crocodile

    Crocodile Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I cook it the traditional way. Soak overnight then about 15 - 20 mins on the stove while gradually adding milk. don't like the lumpiness or taste of microwaved porridge.
     
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