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Type-2-Havent-A-Clue

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
I know that this may differ from person to person but what do you all generally go by?

Is it whats listed on the products nutritional information?

Eat until your content?

For example tonight my evening meal will consist of a chicken leg, olives, salamis, prosciutto ham, cheeses.

My concern as someone has previously mentioned is that I may be under indulging in some things and over indulging in others.

I get different foods affect different people.
 
One thing that has become obvious to me, especially as my wife is almost only half my height is that it surely has to depend on the individuals size / height, which does of course make things a bit more complex.

It does also depend on what one does during the course of a day. If you are a builders labourer then you would surely need more than a mouse clicking clerk in an office.

These are just my thoughts, more than anything.

Having said that, I have always wolfed back big portions which am sure doesn’t help me. :)
 
I might eat those sorts of foods in a morning - as that is when I am most insulin sensitive, so I have more veges or salad and a dessert then - are your food choices to stay as low carb as possible all the time, or have you found that you can eat some carbs earlier in the day?
 
Resurgam said:
I might eat those sorts of foods in a morning - as that is when I am most insulin sensitive, so I have more veges or salad and a dessert then - are your food choices to stay as low carb as possible all the time, or have you found that you can eat some carbs earlier in the day?
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I want to eat as low carb as possible.
 
Listlad said:
One thing that has become obvious to me, especially as my wife is almost only half my height is that it surely has to depend on the individuals size / height, which does of course make things a bit more complex.

It does also depend on what one does during the course of a day. If you are a builders labourer then you would surely need more than a mouse clicking clerk in an office.

These are just my thoughts, more than anything.

Having said that, I have always wolfed back big portions which am sure doesn’t help me. :)
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I’ve been off work since I’ve had my arthritis, before that (technically still am) a doorman, so the dietary pattern was upside down for many years. People are getting up having their weetabix and I’m there having a doner kebab at 5/6am.
 
Type-2-Havent-A-Clue said:
I know that this may differ from person to person but what do you all generally go by?

Is it whats listed on the products nutritional information?

Eat until your content?

For example tonight my evening meal will consist of a chicken leg, olives, salamis, prosciutto ham, cheeses.

My concern as someone has previously mentioned is that I may be under indulging in some things and over indulging in others.

I get different foods affect different people.
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A product's nutritional information, and the recomended daily intake, is based on the EatWell Plate, so that will allow for a lot more carbs and much, much less fats than you'll need as a T2 on a low carb diet. So the only thing you need packaging for is really to check whether there's carbs/sugars in there, and how many.

Decide how many carbs you want to eat per day. Some start at 100, others at 75.... Just pick a number, and use your meter to check whether that's right for you. (20 or less a day is my thing, but it might not be yours; we're all different!) If you test before a meal, and 2 hours after, and you don't go up more than 2.0 mmol/l, the meal was perfection. BUT, it also has to make you feel full and satisfied, as well as giving you all the micro's you need. (Vits and mins). I'm kinda missing veg in what you listed, though I guess olives sortof count, but you really do need some in there eventually. I know some people do great on a carniverous diet though, but just to be on the safe side, as you're just starting out... Broccoli, cauliflower, spinach, something like that would be perfectly okay.
 
It can also depend on one's leptin/grehlin responses and the health of ones gut biome. I agree with @britishpub don't overthink things at this early stage. Lower carbs, raise healthy fats to compensate and eat to satiety. Job'll be a goodun'.
 
Type-2-Havent-A-Clue said:
I’ve been off work since I’ve had my arthritis, before that (technically still am) a doorman, so the dietary pattern was upside down for many years. People are getting up having their weetabix and I’m there having a doner kebab at 5/6am.
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Btw, kebab's fine without the bread. Rock on. ;)
 
Type-2-Havent-A-Clue said:
I want to eat as low carb as possible.
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I am interested in why.
Many people have found that 50 gm of carbs per day is a good number - it provides a diet with an interesting and varied menu, which can supply a wide variety of nutrients, with the huge advantage of restoring normal blood glucose levels and showing good Hba1c numbers when the tests come around. Another plus is that it can mean no medication is required.
There seems to be no great advantage in a very low carb diet, at least not until it is shown that an individual requires something more drastic.
 
Resurgam said:
There seems to be no great advantage in a very low carb diet, at least not until it is shown that an individual requires something more drastic.
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You seem to answer my original question here. This was basically what I was trying to get from my GP who effectively ducked my question.
 
JoKalsbeek said:
A product's nutritional information, and the recomended daily intake, is based on the EatWell Plate, so that will allow for a lot more carbs and much, much less fats than you'll need as a T2 on a low carb diet. So the only thing you need packaging for is really to check whether there's carbs/sugars in there, and how many.

Decide how many carbs you want to eat per day. Some start at 100, others at 75.... Just pick a number, and use your meter to check whether that's right for you. (20 or less a day is my thing, but it might not be yours; we're all different!) If you test before a meal, and 2 hours after, and you don't go up more than 2.0 mmol/l, the meal was perfection. BUT, it also has to make you feel full and satisfied, as well as giving you all the micro's you need. (Vits and mins). I'm kinda missing veg in what you listed, though I guess olives sortof count, but you really do need some in there eventually. I know some people do great on a carniverous diet though, but just to be on the safe side, as you're just starting out... Broccoli, cauliflower, spinach, something like that would be perfectly okay.
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Someone give this woman a doctorate! She’s on
 
Resurgam said:
I am interested in why.
Many people have found that 50 gm of carbs per day is a good number - it provides a diet with an interesting and varied menu, which can supply a wide variety of nutrients, with the huge advantage of restoring normal blood glucose levels and showing good Hba1c numbers when the tests come around. Another plus is that it can mean no medication is required.
There seems to be no great advantage in a very low carb diet, at least not until it is shown that an individual requires something more drastic.
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I need to lower hba1c and weight.
 
I started eating low carb back in the 1970s - I was told that it was bad bad bad - take this diet sheet and stick to it exactly and the magic will happen.
It never did.
I have returned to low carb eating at about the 50 gm a day level lots of times and have noticed that my joints gave a sigh of relief only a week or so later. Since diagnosis I have lost weight and regained a lot of mobility, though - being 67 now, it took longer than I had hoped, but now that I am trying harder I hope to start to reduce my weight again. I have increased my muscle power quite noticeably since going back to work.
 
Resurgam said:
I started eating low carb back in the 1970s - I was told that it was bad bad bad - take this diet sheet and stick to it exactly and the magic will happen.
It never did.
I have returned to low carb eating at about the 50 gm a day level lots of times and have noticed that my joints gave a sigh of relief only a week or so later. Since diagnosis I have lost weight and regained a lot of mobility, though - being 67 now, it took longer than I had hoped, but now that I am trying harder I hope to start to reduce my weight again. I have increased my muscle power quite noticeably since going back to work.
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That’s my aim. Get back to my normal routine (and annoying self )
 
Listlad said:
One thing that has become obvious to me, especially as my wife is almost only half my height is that it surely has to depend on the individuals size / height, which does of course make things a bit more complex.
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I don't think you can be measuring correctly unless your wife is 3ft 6ins and you are 7ft tall.
 
Type-2-Havent-A-Clue said:
I’ve been off work since I’ve had my arthritis, before that (technically still am) a doorman, so the dietary pattern was upside down for many years. People are getting up having their weetabix and I’m there having a doner kebab at 5/6am.
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I think you are doing great and I am just pleased for you not out in the cold all night right now (or do you reside inside the door lol).
 
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