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Positive MSM Diabetes Article

Jo_the_boat

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Well done Mohammed

Do I detect a shift in emphasis?
Not long ago an article like this would be 'there is perhaps some evidence that a change of diet MAY help those with T2'.
This one, bearing in mind it's mainstream BBC, 'features' a guy who has regained control of his health.
There is 'Guarded endorsement' later in the article by 'a Diabetes UK dietician' but, and this is my opinion only, not the outright admittance (or suspicion even) that sugar / glucose is a massive threat to our metabolic health.
Dire metabolic health contributed to our poor outcome during Covid and I'm pleased to see that an inquiry has been launched into our handling of the pandemic. Our collective physical preparedness for it will probably not even be mentioned.
 
Interesting yes I think there is a shift there and also noticed a link on page to low carb recipes too
https://www.bbc.co.uk/food/collections/low-carb_meals
Not sure how low carb they go but at least they list the number of carbs in the recipe so you can work out which ones would fit into the level of carbs you choose to eat to manage your own health.
Edit just checked a recipe with salmon that added sugar though - why? So maybe not!
 
The shift seems very minor. They still place reducing dietary fats front and centre as the required response. Only after that do they allow that reducing carbs may also be helpful for some people, only in the short to medium term. Even then, it’s only simple, refined carbohydrates they will admit to being a problem.

Just had a look at the recipes, oh dear! Many had more carbs per serving than I eat per day! Some had stupid ideas (like the previously mentioned salmon bake with added caster sugar) or seemed okay until they mention eating it with naan or flatbread.
 
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The shift seems very minor. They still place reducing dietary fats front and centre as the required response. Only after that do they allow that reducing carbs may also be helpful for some people, only in the short to medium term. Even then, it’s only simple, refined carbohydrates they will admit to being a problem.

Just had a look at the recipes, oh dear! Many had more carbs per serving than I eat per day! Some had stupid ideas (like the previously mentioned salmon bake with added caster sugar) or seemed okay until they mention eating it with naan or flatbread.
They are also beating the anti meat pro plant based version of Eatwell drum. Also the Low fat, its the sugar stoopid, not carbs mantra. so this is a small step for diabetes-kind. the dieticians are still riding the gravy train. The nutritionist on CNN does exactly the same eat vegan dahl with a flatbread etc.
 
I agree with all your comments about the dodgy diets they're mentioning.
What I really meant was that they featured a guy who has had success with his change of lifestyle first. In other words that was front and centre in the story.
Only subsequently, later in the piece, did they mess it up and kowtow to Messrs Tate, Lyle and Kellogg, and any other murdering swine we choose to mention! :)
 
I agree with all your comments about the dodgy diets they're mentioning.
What I really meant was that they featured a guy who has had success with his change of lifestyle first. In other words that was front and centre in the story.
Only subsequently, later in the piece, did they mess it up and kowtow to Messrs Tate, Lyle and Kellogg, and any other murdering swine we choose to mention! :)
Agree, there is a different theme to this article and indeed, congratulations to Mohammed.

It went well until they invited DUK to comment at the end of the piece, which seems to be an add-on possibly by a different editor since there is no hint of that in the first part of the article.

I used to have a similar problem with this site, where news articles by DCNewsbot were edited to add a para or two on the Low Carb Program and it was not clear that this was commentary and editorial not actually part of the article being reported. Even though I support the LC efforts of this site, I did not like the selling flavour that operation gave to the story. News is news, editorial is opinion. It should be kept clear where one ends, and the other starts.
 
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If you look at Mohammed's revised diet the obvious difference is that he's gone from bog standard diet of carbs to low carb which belies the dietician's commentary re the quality of the carbs being the key difference.
This is getting to be a grassroots movement but there are organisations and GPs behind the scenes who are getting DUK to subtly shift their position from low carb is potentially dangerous to it being safe and effective albeit with the standard sat fat warning!
I note that Diabetes UK info is all centralised (with a dwindling staff of volunteers that is doesn't make use of ) and mainly orthodox re Eatwell plate with none of the individual flexibility that should be offered to diabetics who often can go away and find their way around the confusing plethora of advice like educated Mohammed did but often don't or can't.
The OP is totally right that prevention of serious illness from viruses via decent metabolic health won't get a look in during the enquiry and this coming Winter where boosters plus theatrical npi s will be the only solutions offered.
 
DUK has always followed the Establishment view which is shared by the NHS and all the dietician bodies. All influenced by the food industry lobby; it's all about profitable Carbs. It's one reason why I resigned from DUK about 5 years ago. It's a sheer disgrace that these bodies should push an Eatwell diet that will shorten life but that's the power of profits and ignorant Groupthink. I've been on this site for 15 years or more and have never really seen the site's low-carb commercial push. The site contributors have been supporting Low-carb during all those 15 years or so.
 
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