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Pre-diabetic - Hello

Grannie75

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74
Location
Norfolk
Type of diabetes
Prediabetes
Treatment type
Diet only
Hi, I was diagnosed with pre diabetes 3 weeks ago and at the moment I am waiting to begin a 9 month NHS course to help me avoid getting any worse. I was told that my blood test showed that I was 45 ( not sure what the numbers mean) so my Dr suggested I follow a diet similar to the one shown in the Dr Mosley book, which by my understanding is all about cutting out bread, pasta and all the carbs and living instead on veg, pulses eggs and other protein ( I hope I haven't got that too wrong) I will no doubt be coming to you for advice as I proceed along this road.
I have spent years following a low fat diet which really hasn't worked for me, yet reading some of the Diabetes Uk Healthy Living diet guides they suggest the type of food that matches my old low fat diet with brown bread, pasta etc, so I am getting confused already as my Dr has told me to avoid these foods.
I am a few weeks away from 75 and love dog walking in Norfolk
 
Hi @Grannie75 and welcome to the forum. 45 is in the pre-diabetic range (42-47), diabetic is 48 and over, and 'normal' or non-diabetic is below 42.
It is good that you are taking action now to avoid becoming diabetic. With a bit of effort you should be able to get down into the non-diabetic range.
A lot of us on this forum follow a Low Carbohydrate High Fat (LCHF) approach to eating, which seems to work in lowering our blood sugar levels.
Exercise helps too, so your dog walking is good.
Have a read round the threads to see how LCHF works and ask any questions. The people on here are friendly and supportive.
 
Hi, I was diagnosed with pre diabetes 3 weeks ago and at the moment I am waiting to begin a 9 month NHS course to help me avoid getting any worse. I was told that my blood test showed that I was 45 ( not sure what the numbers mean) so my Dr suggested I follow a diet similar to the one shown in the Dr Mosley book, which by my understanding is all about cutting out bread, pasta and all the carbs and living instead on veg, pulses eggs and other protein ( I hope I haven't got that too wrong) I will no doubt be coming to you for advice as I proceed along this road.
I have spent years following a low fat diet which really hasn't worked for me, yet reading some of the Diabetes Uk Healthy Living diet guides they suggest the type of food that matches my old low fat diet with brown bread, pasta etc, so I am getting confused already as my Dr has told me to avoid these foods.
I am a few weeks away from 75 and love dog walking in Norfolk

Hello Grannie 75 big welcome to the forum,1 st i will request the welcome info pack for you from @ Daisy1
Please have a good read and come back with your questions,clive
 
@Grannie75 - Hello and Welcome to the Forum :).
Tagging @daisy1 who will provide you with some basic information that all new members to the Forum receive, have a good read and ask any questions you may have.
 
Eating low fat foods high in carbs seems to be the worst possible advice we could have had.
The number you were given is your glycated haemoglobin level. It shows that you are having high levels of blood glucose after meals. A diabetic person would have over 48 - my own diagnosis was 91.
By eating things more normal for Humans you will be able to stop those high levels of blood glucose. Meat with the fat on, no grains - they are a recent addition to our diets in evolutionary terms, all sugary things - but low sugar fruits under 10 percent carbs should be OK. in moderation. After eating low fat, however, you might find that your gall bladder has been out of use too long and is clogged up with stones. Mine was - memorably so, but it cleared and is fine now.
I no longer have high blood glucose after just two months, and am hoping to see a normal reading when I have tests again.
 
Thank you all so much for the kind answers, I will read around the Forum to get as much info as I can.
I have also downloaded the 30 day diet from this website and must say that the recipes that I have glanced at all seem to be something I would enjoy eating and also have food that is easy to find in a supermarket, instead of weird and wonderful food that I have never heard of and have no idea where to buy, which many books seem to include.
I look forward to getting my head round all the info on this forum as I know it helps to talk to others in a similar position.
 
Your doctor sounds like a good one taking in the newest research. Read Daisy1's post for new members. It has helped me get and keep my levels borderline prediabetic/normal for the last 6 years. Latest test result was 40 for December 2016
 
@Grannie75

Hello Grannie and welcome to the forum :) To help you to be able to avoid progressing to full diabetes, here is the basic information we give to new members. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 220,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hello and welcome,

I am amazed your doctor told you to cut out all those starchy carbs! He is one in a million so stick hold of him.
The NHS is sadly behind the times with dietary advice, advocating carbs with every meal, plenty of starchy carbs and low fat. (known as the Eatwell Plate). This way of eating doesn't work and is possibly why many of us became diabetic.

The way to go is low carbs with increased fats. By increased fats I mean ditch all your low fat products and eat the real thing. Butter, yogurt, mayonnaise, cream, cheese. There is no need to go berserk if you don't want to, but just avoid anything at all that says low fat or light. As diabetics, or pre-diabetics, we do need to cut down on carbs and eliminate some of the worst ones but we do need to increase fats to stop us feeling hungry, to make our meals taste better, and to replace the lost energy. If you went low carb and low fat you may have problems with hunger and energy levels. (depending how low carb you go) It is a fine balance initially, but trial and error will get you there in the end.

This thread may help
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/a-new-low-carb-guide-for-beginners.68695/
 
Hi and welcome. Confusing isn't it. Basically ignore any NHS, DUK or similar websites with regard to diet. Many are driven by the same low-fat, low-sugar, low-salt mantra and much of it is driven by the food industry lobby who want us to keep consuming carbs. You need to keep the carbs down and have enough protein and fat to keep you feeling full. Veg is excellent of course as well as fruit but avoid too much root veg and tropical fruit. Dr Mosley has finally come round to seeing sense with regard to diet and his diet is quite good although the '8 week bit' needs to be 'forever' and carbs rather than calories matter most. Yes, sounds like you have a good GP.
 
Hi and welcome to the forum.
Well done for taking control and finding this website whilst your pre-diabetic, I ignored it at this stage and went on to be diabetic. Read and learn as much as you can. Totally agree with your move to go LCHF, its worked for me I've lost weight and improved my blood sugars.
Good luck to you
Maggie
 
Hi, and welcome! A very sensible decision to come here and get sensible, practical advice on how to avoid the unwelcome move to being diabetic. As has already been said, reducing carbs and upping fats is a great step which will also help you shed unwanted pounds. Honestly, they just peel off with minimum hunger. When I think of all those years spent eating nasty, unsatisfying low fat junk... :banghead:

Your doc really seems unusually clued up, definitely a keeper.
 
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