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Prediabetic diet without saturated animal fats better?

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dknight10

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Hi, Iam 64 year old who has experienced higher Hb1ac levels after two car accidents within 3 years causing inflamtion and reduced lifestye. I was able to bring the number down due to adjusting my diet with exercise, fasting and lowering my carbohydrates (eating a lessor amount). Since 2014, I retired which was great to be able to concentrate on working on my diet and experiment with food types.. When I was younger I never had a problem with blood sugar but it started to climb up due to lack of exercise and my weight going up. Since I have got my weight at my high school weight, perfect for by exercising after retiring. I also track my glocose numbers after 16 hour fast and eat at 1:30pm the next day when my numbers drop below 6.9 rate. .This was my own plan I figured out that worked for me and was able to refuse the attempts of my nurse practioners pleas for me to start taking drugs to lower my blood sugar for future benefits?even though I was able to bring it back to prediabetic levels below 6.4 hblac levels. Beside trying a Keto diet approach was hard since bread not included to the diet(less carbs) allthough keto bread was very good except for the price. Eating good fats is great for losing weight and healthy. I have been reading a plant based diet with little or no animal protien and eliminating proceessed milk , eggs,and butter is documented to have the best effective diet to reduce blood suger, I also beleive due to naturopathic testing that insulin molecules are damaged by saturated or bad fats which effects the cell membrance permubility with diets with animal fats and acidic protien (meat) causing gasritis in the stomach (excesive mucous) also lowered HCL maybe due to acidic aniaml protien diet which causes inflamation at the cell level with ineffective transport of insulin to the cell . Also the saturated animal fats accumulate in the liver and pancreas casung blockage in the cells and to insulin resistance. I am starting to feel very sorry for the animals. Has anyone tried this kind of change to their diets? Also my twin brother has been on insulin since age 30 and and I beleive that due to a lack of being hydrated and smoking (lowers vit C) and inactivity and an animal protien diet is the cause of his inflamation. He and I are geting better Hb1ac results by changing our diet.
 
I'd never even consider it. Far too radical.
 
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dknight10 said:
Also the saturated animal fats accumulate in the liver and pancreas casung blockage in the cells and to insulin resistance
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Sounds like you've been reading something by the vegan activists.. misleading and for the most part completely untrue.
Barnard, Greger maybe?
 
Not for me - I'm an inactive and rather ancient omnivore and I've eaten animal protein and fat all my life and will continue to do so - this type of food has been instrumental in helping me reduce my glucose levels quickly and then keep them down to pre-diabetic levels long term. Various types of fats/oils have replaced carbs as my main energy source.

But each to his own!

Robbity
 
Reads like total tosh to me - well more like 'what can we make up to get people to believe what we want them to?'
I had a Hba1c of 91 when eating a healthy high carb diet - I was no longer diabetic after 80 days of eating meat, fish, eggs, cheese - pretty effective I think.
I have read messages on here of people no longer needing to inject insulin when eating low carb - some need none others manage on basal only.
 
Resurgam said:
Reads like total tosh to me - well more like 'what can we make up to get people to believe what we want them to?'
I had a Hba1c of 91 when eating a healthy high carb diet - I was no longer diabetic after 80 days of eating meat, fish, eggs, cheese - pretty effective I think.
I have read messages on here of people no longer needing to inject insulin when eating low carb - some need none others manage on basal only.
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@Resurgam I'm a little confused here since there are 2 types of insulin bolus and basal.
I eat a moderate amount of carb, some days I go without so no bolus but I couldn't live without the basal insulin.
Numbers can tell a lot about BG but once a diabetic, always a diabetic. IMOP
 
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SueJB said:
@Resurgam I'm a little confused here since there are 2 types of insulin bolus and basal.
I eat a moderate amount of carb, some days I go without so no bolus but I couldn't live without the basal insulin.
Numbers can tell a lot about BG but once a diabetic, always a diabetic. IMOP
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Sue, some people, mainly T2s, although some T1s too use one insulin, which is a mixed insulin. The mixture is a proportion of long-acting and the balance fast-acting insulin.

The basal/bolus regime does appear to allow significantly better control on a variable diet, whereas pre-mixed requires eating and drinking regimes to be pretty consistent day on day.
 
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Sue, some people, mainly T2s, although some T1s too use one insulin, which is a mixed insulin. The mixture is a proportion of long-acting and the balance fast-acting insulin.

The basal/bolus regime does appear to allow significantly better control on a variable diet, whereas pre-mixed requires eating and drinking regimes to be pretty consistent day on day.
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@DCUKMod Thanks for the info which confirms that there are indeed 2 types of insulin as I said.
 
SueJB said:
@DCUKMod Thanks for the info which confirms that there are indeed 2 types of insulin as I said.
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Perhaps I misinterpreted your post, however, a person using mixed insulin has no option to only take the basal element. If they take their insulin, they take the mixture.

Apologies to the OP. I don't want to deflect the thread.
 
DCUKMod said:
Perhaps I misinterpreted your post, however, a person using mixed insulin has no option to only take the basal element. If they take their insulin, they take the mixture.

Apologies to the OP. I don't want to deflect the thread.
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Yep @DCUKMod you certainly did misinterpret
 
dknight10 said:
……... Eating good fats is great for losing weight and healthy. I have been reading a plant based diet with little or no animal protien and eliminating proceessed milk , eggs,and butter is documented to have the best effective diet to reduce blood suger, I also beleive due to naturopathic testing that insulin molecules are damaged by saturated or bad fats which effects the cell membrance permubility with diets with animal fats and acidic protien (meat) causing gasritis in the stomach (excesive mucous) also lowered HCL maybe due to acidic aniaml protien diet which causes inflamation at the cell level with ineffective transport of insulin to the cell . Also the saturated animal fats accumulate in the liver and pancreas casung blockage in the cells and to insulin resistance. I am starting to feel very sorry for the animals. Has anyone tried this kind of change to their diets? Also my twin brother has been on insulin since age 30 and and I beleive that due to a lack of being hydrated and smoking (lowers vit C) and inactivity and an animal protien diet is the cause of his inflamation. He and I are geting better Hb1ac results by changing our diet.
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Hi dknight10., With respect, you have been severely mislead.
The complete reverse of this part of what you say is the truth as most members can attest.
Healthy fats are those which are saturated or mono-unsaturated i.e. of Animal or Fish origin, plus Olive , Coconut and Avocado.
'Vegetable fats' are highly processed and high on Omega 6 - the inflammatory type of fats!
Do your really want more inflammation than you already have?

The ancient Egyptians are the first population to eat the sort of diet (wrongly) advised for heart health by most modern dietitians.
The were also the first to suffered from Diabetes and Heart attacks in anything like the numbers that we have today. The rich eat the same bread based diet as the poor (just more of it0 and so rich men all tended to have 'wheat bellies' and 'man boobs' as their statues show.

It was exactly this dietary way of eating (not a diet since I was normal weight) that gave me a 3x Bypass and Type 2 Diabetes.

Why would the same food suddenly give the opposite effects - it is just crazy to believe it, but that is what most doctors, Diabetes Nurses and Dietitians have been trained to believe.

Follow our Low Carb Success Stories in the Low Carb sub-forum, and @LowCarbGP - Dr David Unwin who's surgery has the proven best diabetic patient care in the whole of the UK.
 
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