Grumpy1954
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All carbs turn to sugar in your bloodstream, and porridge is high carb.I usually have some porridge or toast when I get up, and a mug of black coffee. Anyone have any comments or (helpful) suggestions? Thanks
Tiredness nd feeling the urge to nap can be caused by high blood glucose (it definitely did for me), so if this happens after breakfast and lunch it might be related to your food choices.feel rested when I wake, but as soon as I start moving around I feel tired again, and lately need a short afternoon nap most days (an hour to 1 1/2hrs)
In the morning people often see their highest number because the liver dumps glucose in the bloodstream to help you going for the day. It's called Dawn Phenomenon.Thanks every one - I did do the 2 hr tests today, at my wife's suggestion. I went from 10.1 before eating to 8.4 later. New to me, I thought 10.1 meant too much sugar, but first thing in the morning, that doesn't make sense.
Wholemeal carbs are a bit slower than white carbs, yes. But they still increase blood glucose. It makes more sense to reduce the carbs altogether to me.We'd been having porridge as we'd been told over the years under Healthy Eating to have wholemeal everything, bread, pasta etc and porridge as a slow energy release food.
Hi @Grumpy1954 .I did do the 2 hr tests today, at my wife's suggestion. I went from 10.1 before eating to 8.4 later.
One other thing to consider.... We're all talking about going low carb, which often means no more bread, cereals, potatoes, corn, rice, pasta etc.... All those things contain salt. So usually, when someone starts low carbing to drop their blood glucose, their salt-intake drops too. And with it, elevated blood pressure can get lower or even normalise. (And should you be on blood pressure medication, you might even go too low, and need to reduce medication when you start seeing stars or things go black when you stand up). Also, both high blood pressure and high blood glucose can damage kidneys. Low carbing can in potential, be the magic bullet for you. Up to you though, but thought you should know. Like sugar, salt is a cheap taste enhancer, so there's a lot of either or both in (over-) processed foods. Cut the bulk of those out and you might find a number of things changing.HI all, I'm 69 and in UK (Shropshire) and am disabled with poor mobility, very high bp and other problems.. Wife has been type 2 for years..
Last blood test the GP told me I was just over the line , wants repeat bloods in 3 weeks to confirm. Even then he doesn't want to put me on metformin like my wife, as I also have age related kidney function problems (also on last bloods)
For the time being, I sleep reasonable, feel rested when I wake, but as soon as I start moving around I feel tired again, and lately need a short afternoon nap most days (an hour to 1 1/2hrs)
My wife had me check my blood sugars the last 2 mornings, yesterday was 8.5, today 10.1 which she says probably is diabetes. I usually have some porridge or toast when I get up, and a mug of black coffee. Anyone have any comments or (helpful) suggestions? Thanks
It was porridge, just plain made with half water half milk. Guess I'm going to have to get used to all this now, thankfully you all seem very friendly and helpful on here.In the morning people often see their highest number because the liver dumps glucose in the bloodstream to help you going for the day. It's called Dawn Phenomenon.
The morning number is the only one you can't do much about, but your numbers after food you can.
What food did you test going from 10.1 to 8.4?
Wholemeal carbs are a bit slower than white carbs, yes. But they still increase blood glucose. It makes more sense to reduce the carbs altogether to me.
I had very high blood pressure and this frequently made me tired and sleepy. I don’t know if perhaps this could also be adding to possible high blood glucose.
I reduced my blood pressure from >150/>95 to <125/75 by switching to a low carb way of eating and it has made a huge difference to my energy levels.
Our bodies are unique to ourselves, so what works for one may not work for another. Experiment and see what works for you.
Normally I'd ask to see people's cats, but that bike sounds interesting...!MY BP is medicated down, it all started years back when I had 6 months of stupidity with DWP and the local Council and the stress sent my BP to 200/175. It did reach those levels again recently, and I've had some sort of itchy rash on my legs, with retained water meaning I had no visible knees or ankles. In hand now, GP had me on 3 blood tests, an ecg, 2 x rays and some others I forget. Could well be the stress from all thatr as well, my usual stress relief is to go for a motorcycle ride, but with my ankles still swollen I can't get my boots on.
HiMY BP is medicated down, it all started years back when I had 6 months of stupidity with DWP and the local Council and the stress sent my BP to 200/175. It did reach those levels again recently, and I've had some sort of itchy rash on my legs, with retained water meaning I had no visible knees or ankles. In hand now, GP had me on 3 blood tests, an ecg, 2 x rays and some others I forget. Could well be the stress from all thatr as well, my usual stress relief is to go for a motorcycle ride, but with my ankles still swollen I can't get my boots on.
Lol, no worries about the low carbs etc stuff, all new and interesting so far. hadn't thought about the water bit or the rash, which I keep telling the GP started itchy overnight on my buttock cheeks, assumed I'd just got too hot under the quilt, getting it sometimes on my hands. As for peeing for England, already doing that, they've got me on 3 water pills a day for the water retention. BY chance, my wife's first boyfriend didn't have a full bike licence, "borrowed" his dad's 600cc Honda to take her out, didn't tell her to lean on bends, so the first one saw them through a hedge into a farmer's field. Both my current bikes are Honda's, a 700cc Deauville, and as I'm getting older, a lighter 500cc Rebel. I started on a Bsa bantam, 175cc at 16 (dad's influence) then due to shortage of British bikes in the 70's, went to 250 twin Honda then an early one of the now legendary CB750-4's. Rebel should be on my profile pic, will try to add more. OK, can't only load Deaux went with Rebel and my first "back to bikes" 600cc Hornet from 2018Normally I'd ask to see people's cats, but that bike sounds interesting...!
Another thing: carbs retain water. Reduce carb intake, and the first weight you lose, is called water-weight, because you pee for England and might even become a bit dehydrated. (Which means getting headaches and sore muscles/joints for a bit, as well as fatigue. Electrolyte supplements should help until your body gets used to the difference, which should take up to 2 weeks). The rash could be diabetes related as we tend to get yeast infections all over the place when blood sugars are high, but it could be a water-retention thing too, dunno which.
Anyway... I can keep talking about the low carb perks until the cows come home, which I don't know might be irritating to you by now. So you could shut me up by telling me a little about that bike? I know nothing about them, just love the look of them (and, granted, the sound of a Harley), and had my first and only morotcycle accident in utero. Mom thought my dad wasn't going to make the rather tight corner, so she let herself fall off the back of the bike, and rolled into the grass beside the road.Last summer I finally got my husband to take me to a Harley day over in the town of Woerden. (He was reluctant because I can be a little reckless). No colours allowed, but all sorts were there, and there I was, bouncing around with my camera's in a flowery dress, haha. Could not have been more out of place, but I loved it.
So, yeah.... Better get dinner started. Hope you're okay, and we've probably given you a lot to mull over... Any questions, throw them out there.
Jo
I didn't know about the diagnosis bit, but I do now. Very interesting story, as I'd had all that, including the lymph-filled blisters. GP prescribed 2 creams, one with as steroid content to address the redness and itching, and another to moisturise the skin, plus a high dose of diuretics. The GP I'm seeing is my normal one, and not the Practice Diabetic specialist. I'll certainly bring it up next week when I'm back in again.Hi
You know we can't and won't diagnose on here, so I'm going to tell you a bit of my story instead.
From 2010 until mid 2020 I had severe water retention in my lower legs and feet particularly. At first I thought my feet had started growing again. The water swelling also appeared in my hands and fingers, eyelids, everywhere. My kidneys were very reluctant to produce any urine and for most of the time between 2011 and 2020 I was on various diuretics, at steadily increasing levels. They didn't really work. This led to lymph-filled blisters (t term is bullae) forming and fluid starting to leak directly through my skin.
Around 2014/15 I developed red legs - lower legs became very red and inflamed and itchy, with "shin spots" - a problem because my skin was like tissue paper. Scratching didn't end well.
These are all classic T2 diabetic symptoms - my practice didn't recognise them as diabetic symptoms and treated each in isolation.
They all went, very quickly, in the first six months of 2020 when I got my blood glucose to normal levels. And they've not been back since.
Although I can't say for sure, it sounds like what you're describing is close to what I experienced. You'd need to get the opinion of your medical team. If they are in fact diabetic symptoms, they may well improve or vanish with blood glucose reduction.
I hear that, my friend.my usual stress relief is to go for a motorcycle ride
I Get that too.started itchy overnight on my buttock cheeks
Not a biker but I do know!Only bikers really know why dogs put their heads out car windows.
Love the pic, hopefully you can swap your shoes for boots again shortly and enjoy your rides again!Rebel should be on my profile pic
You have lovely wheels, and excellent taste! I do hope the boots'll fit again soon... It seems like a fine way to blow off steam. I don't see the bikes you mention/shared here and on my profile in the Netherlands often... Seems like everyone's either on a Harley, usually vintage/classic and/or special paint, which has me rubbernecking from the car's passenger seat, or a lime green Kawasaki Ninja. (Did they give those away with cereal or something? Nothing wrong with them, there's just so many...! I like a little variation and individuality!). Goldwings seem to all migrate to the south the moment the weather picks up and touring becomes attractive.Lol, no worries about the low carbs etc stuff, all new and interesting so far. hadn't thought about the water bit or the rash, which I keep telling the GP started itchy overnight on my buttock cheeks, assumed I'd just got too hot under the quilt, getting it sometimes on my hands. As for peeing for England, already doing that, they've got me on 3 water pills a day for the water retention. BY chance, my wife's first boyfriend didn't have a full bike licence, "borrowed" his dad's 600cc Honda to take her out, didn't tell her to lean on bends, so the first one saw them through a hedge into a farmer's field. Both my current bikes are Honda's, a 700cc Deauville, and as I'm getting older, a lighter 500cc Rebel. I started on a Bsa bantam, 175cc at 16 (dad's influence) then due to shortage of British bikes in the 70's, went to 250 twin Honda then an early one of the now legendary CB750-4's. Rebel should be on my profile pic, will try to add more. OK, can't only load Deaux went with Rebel and my first "back to bikes" 600cc Hornet from 2018
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