"Progressive" since when?

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I'm wondering when it was decided that diabetes T2 is proressive. My husband has been T1 for over 30 years and Idon't remember coming across this concept until fairly recently. the first time was about 3 to 4 years ago when my GP told me that I would need to increase my medication over time because of it. I haven't.
I am now sure that the better the control, the less Progressive T2 is.
This inevitably means that some patients are not going to wish to or be able to keep tight enough to prevent progression, but surely in the "olden" carb restricting days, it didn't happen much. Or did it?
Does anyone know?
 
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no, but it would be good if T2s who have switched to carb counting for a while could say whether the progression stops.

It's early days for me but in terms of medication at least my condition is 'regressive' as I have dramatically reduced my insulin needs
 
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Certainly 10 years ago. I shall have to ask my Dr to ask his father, who my firm actually consulted when he was lecturing in physiology at Imperial College in the 60s.

I am involved in their "SABRE" study of heart & diabetes in Southall And BREnt & and being subjected to all sort of tests next Friday. I have already banged the reduced carb drum & will bang it again when I see them.
 
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Excellent question, I suspect it was probably always progressive *unless controlled* and while on the one hand we have more drugs to help avoid the progression we are also routinely put on high carb low fat diets which overwhelm them.

Wasn't it Manofkent who reported something like 39 years progression free? He was probably lucky enough to have been given a proper diet in the first place. I know someone elsewhere who can claim 25 years.

Probably other factors are also involved, mother's Type 2 uncle did a lot worse than father's Type 1 brother despite insulin.
 
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Good luck with the tests Ian!
Hope it's not like the X-files :lol:
 
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Trinkwasser said:
Wasn't it Manofkent who reported something like 39 years progression free? He was probably lucky enough to have been given a proper diet in the first place. I know someone elsewhere who can claim 25 years.
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It was Kentishman Trink :roll:

by kentishman on Sat May 09, 2009 12:14 pm
I have been a Type2 Dibetic for 39 years and right from the beginning I found that carbohydrate was the enemy. dDespite medical advice I have always eaten as little carbohydrate as possible. 39 years on and at the age of 86 I have no Diabetic complications.I don't know what my readings are as I have stopped testing.There is nothing I can do about my readings and an annual HBA1C seems to be all I get. Carbohydrate mught be fine for Type1 but no Insulin, no carbohydrate
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graham64 said:
It was Kentishman Trink :roll:
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Oh deary me am I in trouble now!

There's a significant difference between a Kentishman and a Man Of Kent, but for the life of me I can't remember what it is

<runs far away north of the River>
 
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