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Protein & Gluconeogenesis

but... those statements are wrong....
gluconeogenesis is always running and up when we are in ketosis, it will turn protein in glucose always, that priority is on always for the organs that do not run on ketones (amongst which is the liver itself). And you can notoriously get out of ketosis for excess protein because of that... let's not call it chocolate cake maybe, but glucose for sure... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4050641/
 
You might find Dr Benjamin Bikman's presentation at Breckenridge interesting - he argues that protein is not a problem (as in insulinogenic) in the context of a low carb/ketogenic diet:


Uncontrolled gluconeogenesis seems to be more of an issue in uncontrolled Type 2 diabetes.
 
Indy51 said:
You might find Dr Benjamin Bikman's presentation at Breckenridge interesting - he argues that protein is not a problem (as in insulinogenic) in the context of a low carb/ketogenic diet:


Uncontrolled gluconeogenesis seems to be more of an issue in uncontrolled Type 2 diabetes.
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Yes, a very interesting subject, and thanks Indy51 for an interesting viewing.

If pressed for time, I would say watch it from 17:21 - I was cooking and keeping warm this morning, so it may have been my cold and slow brain, but I didn't really get into it until that point, and then his points seemed to be very hard-hitting and good.

Do you or anyone else know of any specific articles or youtubes that deal with the uncontrolled gluconeogenesis from even otherwise very well controlled type two diabetes folk? How other folks with this issue might be dealing with it?
 
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