Hello everyone,
I am new here. I have been having some postprandial symptoms that seem hypoglycemia-like. I am going through this with GP and specialists, but it has taken nearly a year to finally get to an endocrinologist.
So while the medical investigation proceeds at a glacial pace, I was thinking of trying a low-carbohydrate diet off my own bat.
Here's the problem: I am vegetarian, cannot eat eggs (except in small amounts), and cannot eat high-fibre foods (e.g. lentils, chickpeas, hardcore salad stuff).
(The egg and fibre thing relate to bowel surgery that I had many years ago.)
Is it possible to eat a low-carbohydrate diet with these restrictions? I have tried and failed several times as I am stumped at what to eat and I live in a small town so no suitable take-away or restaurant options. I just got overwhelmed trying to prepare meals from scratch.
Breakfast in particular is a problem - no fruit, no toast, no porridge, no eggs. What to eat? Plus I always feel a bit queasy so there's no way I could chomp down on a plate of stirfry first thing!
I guess I am prepared to go non-veg to see if the change in diet helps.
I would really appreciate your advice. Have tried one dietitian but she wasn't any help. A, gradually reading through thread and learning a lot.
Cheers,
Sarah
Hi, and welcome to our forum.
Having read your post, I have come to the conclusion that you are completely different to me. Because everything you can't eat, I do and vice versa. My daily intake is mostly meat, protein, eggs, and salad vegetables, with a few added tomatoes, small portions of fruit, mushrooms, onions.
Most of my meals are cooked fresh, some batched and frozen, like soup, curries and of course all very low carb.
However, as is pointed out, that most of my food intake is late afternoon, early evening. I use intermittent fasting, because my body tells me that if I want a good day and plenty of energy, then not eating is the simplest, easiest way to start the day.
If you don't mind, what is your fasting blood glucose reading before breakfast?
What tests have you had?
RH is a condition that is caused by food or drink that is too quick to turn to glucose.
Hypos are the result of eating those foods.
We are all different, we do need to find our own dietary needs.
Have a read of the low carb forum, there are some great ideas and recipes.
Do read the threads on the forum, any questions, we will try and help.
Best wishes
hi and welcome!
I can see how very low carbing as a low fibre vegetarian will have its own set of difficulties!
And a lot of that will depend on how low fibre and how low carb...
are chia seeds too fibre-y for you? Only chia seed puddings are great, if made low carb.
how about tofu scrambles or yoghurt for breakfast? Or avocado and mozzarella?
Golden milk? Coffee with cream or coconut oil?
My best breakfasts don’t happen at all.
By that I mean that if I skip breakfast completely (just a hot drink with a smidge of cream in it), my blood glucose stays beautifully steady until I do eat - which was 3pm yesterday.
I think the timescales vary from person to person, and there are a number of things in play.
if someone drops their carbs from high to low sharply, and ‘goes keto’ then they may experience a few symptoms called ‘keto flu’ while their body adapts. Nothing to worry about, and easily dealt with. Others breeze RH through with no such symptoms.
So RH symptoms may ease quickly (in my case, as short as a couple of days), but there could be other things going on during the transition. My body certainly had to adjust to steady bg levels after so long with wildly swinging ones. Hunger at weird times, headaches, carb cravings, and so on.
most transitional symptoms can be dealt with easily with a big glass of water or a hot drink. A bit of salt on your food, and eating good, unprocessed food with enough protein and fat to keep the hunger at bay and drip feed steady blood glucose levels.
good luck, and let us know how things go?
If you wish to ask questions or are interested in asking anything pertaining to hypoglycaemia, diabetic or non diabetic. Ask here.
Hi @LouisSunny welcome back.Hi, I haven’t been on here for ages as I’m quite settled. I am just type 2 with RH. Hello to you all.
I had my first Covid jab on Sunday and my levels have been really strange? I usually go weird at 4.5 downwards but I’m going weird towards hypo at 6.7?? All the same symptoms but I haven’t changed any of my boring food? Have you had any other people ask?
Many Thanks Donna
Hi, I haven’t been on here for ages as I’m quite settled. I am just type 2 with RH. Hello to you all.
I had my first Covid jab on Sunday and my levels have been really strange? I usually go weird at 4.5 downwards but I’m going weird towards hypo at 6.7?? All the same symptoms but I haven’t changed any of my boring food? Have you had any other people ask?
Many Thanks Donna
I was pre in November..i am in pain when eat anything..cant explain too complicated. If i eat anything with fat which stays in m tummy long time my sugars waking are 7.4 to 7.9. If i eat which i did some high sugar stollan cake xmas i suddenly cant stay awake. If i eat just chickin sprouts 1 carrot i am still in awful pain all in back. Had mrcp said all ok. Wake and sugars 3.1. Or 3.4. Ate bit of choc at 1pm fine then 6.30 sugars 5.4 so hingry at bit bread by 10.pm in pain all in back sugars 13.. now yesterday all i ate was 3 bread as im not well and pain all inside awful but this morning 4.1 no food get up at 10 by 11m30 sugars 5.5. Ive can barely eat due to pain eating after off 2 bad drugs. Will tell gp again hopefully tomorrowm i was worried re pancreas. I dont know how to find my replies to my posts on hereIf you wish to ask questions or are interested in asking anything pertaining to hypoglycaemia, diabetic or non diabetic. Ask here.
Can non diabetic have hypoglycemia?If you wish to ask questions or are interested in asking anything pertaining to hypoglycaemia, diabetic or non diabetic. Ask here.
Hi @bisalimo ,Can non diabetic have hypoglycemia?
I have a question!
It's more about the feeling of reactive hypoglycemia, or postprandial adrenergic syndrome.
I know insulin dumps basically are the cause of the crummy feelings. However! What is actually happening that makes it feel so bad? Like my blood sugar is in the normal range, not actually hypo, so why do I feel dizzy, weak, like I might die? What's the science behind this even with normal blood sugar levels?
The insulin dumps are known as overshoots and with RH, the insulin drives down your blood glucose levels down and the quicker it happens the worse the symptoms. The lower your BG gets, the symptoms get worse.
The reason you feel awful in normal levels is similar to a sugar crash. Your brain is probably used to being in relatively higher than normal levels due to carbs and sugars, it wants to stay there, just in case there is too much insulin or too high a spike, so the brain reacts by issuing signals to stop the spike or wanting more glucose, when your brain gets a signal that your BG is plummeting down, it tries to defend itself, send more signals, more symptoms.
Your brain, when out of normal levels, lacks vital hormones including glucose, cortisol and so on. The high levels of insulin, means that the lack of glucose, your brain is sending signals to your body to correct it, but it can't because of the need for food to process into glucose is not there, unless you are in ketosis and using ketones.
Because you are not yet in control or in ketosis, the imbalance of insulin, glucose and other hormones have symptoms connected to it. There is insulin resistance, high levels of circulating insulin mean your energy levels are down, the brain fug, lethargy but much worse, because there is nothing your body can use to correct it, glucogenisis from your liver is very poor because of insulin resistance, hence this is why even though I was eating very little, I was steadily gaining weight. Symptoms are the brain's way of telling you something ain't right! Unused insulin turns into unwanted visceral fat around your organs.
You feel awful because of the signals not doing what your brain wants it too!
Your nervous system is connected to all your organs and glands. Your nervous system is why your symptoms include anxiety.
Without using scientific jafgon, I think that about sums it up!
Keep asking!
The insulin dumps are known as overshoots and with RH, the insulin drives down your blood glucose levels down and the quicker it happens the worse the symptoms. The lower your BG gets, the symptoms get worse.
Without using scientific jafgon, I think that about sums it up!
Keep asking!
So with postprandial issues, or when there isn't actually low blood glucose, is there an actual danger or is it like your brain sending out false signals of sorts?
Sorry, one more question.
Besides going to keto, is there other ways to manage this? Is low carb diets in itself beneficial? Does the body ever adjust itself from being "used to high blood sugars"?
I can tell you as a fact that your brain lies to you constantly.
But that is why we can use some body signals or technology to help us control.
With a consistent control, you become aware of difference between normal and either going high or low!
My hypo awareness is so good.
Yes, lack of glucose or to much insulin is really bad for you.
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