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Thank you I will remember.
Fortunately I am neither old enough nor uninformed enough to fall for those adverts.
How about additional life insurance? You even get a free pen just for applying and a welcome gift when you've paid your first payment....don't forget.
Thank you I will remember.
Fortunately I am neither old enough nor uninformed enough to fall for those adverts.
...yet.....
If that doesn't grab you, the smart cash back will.
That's the way I see it.Ironically myself and my partner said the same thing this afternoon.
What deems a recovered alcoholic no longer an alcoholic?
We came to the conclusion the will to drink would have to be no longer a driving force for the addiction.
So we also concluded the body would have to not cause high sugar levels when eating like a non-diabetic?
Chill...It might be a good idea to give up now.
I'm not sure you are adding anything particularly constructive to the thread mate.
For me it was shock and stress which led to more carbs, more meds more shock and stress. On top of more stress then 2 pregnancies and more stress. Hence insulin and a little depression.That's the way I see it.
Both conditions if cured/in remission could quite possibly be upended within minutes though.
That said, and as noted previously, I would be interested to see the circumstance required for a 'cured' diabetic to become diabetic again.
Is it just excess carbs,excess body fat etc?
Stress is often cited and may have helped to screw many of us TBH.For me it was shock and stress which led to more carbs, more meds more shock and stress. On top of more stress then 2 pregnancies and more stress. Hence insulin and a little depression.
That's life!
You just have to use your own coping mechanisms to survive it. It can kill some people. I guess I'm one of the lucky ones. I come across ok but my body takes the strain. I don't drink or smoke so I have used carbs as my crutch in the past. Not anymore. I use protein rich foods instead. Well on the odd occasion.Stress is often cited and may have helped to screw many of us TBH.
BUT how can we legitimately measure and then control that?
I don't understand your analogy.It's a shame to write a discussion off as a squabble. If you don't see the point of it perhaps it means the point just isn't important to you not that there is no point.
Imagine two people break a leg. They both get medical advice.
Patient 1: Your leg was broken. There is a process to heal your injury. You can wear a cast for 8 weeks. During this time you must not put any weight on your healing leg. At the end of 8 weeks you will be given a two month programme of stretching and muscle building exercises. By the end of this process your leg will be as good as new.
Patient 2: Your leg was broken. Over time the bones will knit together. With diligent management of your injury you will gain good function in the leg. You will be able to walk, climb stairs and enjoy pain free mobility. But you must never move too quickly let alone run as your leg will always be a potential problem just waiting to happen.
If you consider yourself cured, then you're cured.
If you consider your diabetes in remission, then it's in remission.
If you consider your diabetes reversed, then it's reversed.
If you consider yourself to be a well controlled type 2 diabetic, then you are a well controlled type 2 diabetic.
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ThanksI wrote my post in the hope that people would agree to differ. The thread does not seem to be going anywhere, just a few people arguing about semantics.
If you are unhappy with my attempt at trying to keep the peace, rather than close the thread, then please discuss via PM as per forum rules.
Agreed. However, it does show how emotive the subject is...afterall it effects us all one way or another. My approach is too deliberately divert or lighten the conversation and perhaps it may well meander back on course. As noted above, the definition ( like the condition) is in the eye of the beholder and no matter how much some may try and push their point of view- resistance will naturally occur.I wrote my post in the hope that people would agree to differ. The thread does not seem to be going anywhere, just a few people arguing about semantics.
If you are unhappy with my attempt at trying to keep the peace, rather than close the thread, then please discuss via PM as per forum rules.
I'm not sure if you are deliberately misunderstanding, or are you unable to follow an argument ?
The minutiae I was very clearly talking about was whether or not we should waste time discussing what these words mean, not whether or not you can be cured of Diabetes or be classed as not having Diabetes by the medical profession.
I have never said, nor do I think that somebody cannot reverse, be cured of, or have their Diabetes enter remission.
How you, or anybody else views their current status is irrelevant to me.
I view my current status as having excellent control over the Diabetes that I still suffer from. It is certainly not cured, nor reversed but probably could be considered in remission.
For your information the DVLA will not penalise me for being a T2D that is not controlled by medication, it will in no way affect my employment and so far has not made any difference to any Insurance product I either held prior to, or have bought since diagnosis.
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