JohnEGreen
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Perhaps we should keep in mind the real measure of the reversal and remission is really in extending the various complications and endpoints related to diabetes.
I reverse my diabetes not so that I can have my favorite ramen and fried rice regularly, but in order to live a life especially in old age that is not burden with lost memories, limbs, blindness and dialysis.
But what if I didn't like rice to start with.
But what if I didn't like rice to start with.
All my markers are now non-diabetic, A1C, Lipids etc, but I'm still diabetic as it would return very quickly if I returned to old lifestyle habits
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Hi KevinPotts,i entirely agree,i am controlling my t2 ,have lost the necessary weight and i know that if i were to ease up and go back to old eating habits .......
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For some people. Slim type 2s can be still insulin resistant. (Bariatric surgery survivers can lose all their weight but still be insulin resistant) as of @KevinPotts without surgery.I started to read through the thread but it kept gaining on me!
As far as I can see, if you are producing insulin normally but are insulin resistant due to visceral fat, then if you get rid of the visceral fat and are no longer insulin resistant then you are back to normal.
Not saying this is common, just that it is possible.
Reversal of uncontrolled type 2.All my markers are now non-diabetic, A1C, Lipids etc, but I'm still diabetic as it would return very quickly if I returned to old lifestyle habits
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But that is just it... you are not cured... you just changed the eating habbits to CONTROL. Whether you go back to old eating habbits or not it is still there waiting for you to slip up. I tested my daughter who is on a very "healthy diet" according to nhs. Her bgl are pre diabetic, i have already reduced her carbs and changed the diet and her bgl have improved immediately (she is 12 and NOT on the same diet as me in extremely low carb) it must have taken us years to get to this point... she is how i was at that age and knowing now the symptoms i can see i had them back then and saw it in her. She easily eats more than the 5 a day of fruit and veg but some fruit is bad and just sugar. If she stay on the diet i put her on (changed to berries and lower gi carbs) she will hopefully never develop diabetes... but if not she may well end up like me.It would take a real effort for me to actually eat that much anymore.
I certainly don't like sweet foods now, but I reckon I could eat enough good carbs though, rather than old bad ones. And I wouldn't put the weight back on again.
So I reckon a balanced diet would be acceptable, without any great problem if you had reversed your diabetes.
As far as I can see, if you are producing insulin normally but are insulin resistant due to visceral fat, then if you get rid of the visceral fat and are no longer insulin resistant then you are back to normal.
Not saying this is common, just that it is possible.
Does metformin help to loose weight?
Some people can only see size 3 shoe or 3.5 gives them different discomfort but everyone tells them if they persevere they will soften but wait and wait in discomfort hoping for a cure. (The shoes to mold to a permanent prosthesis like slippers and with a natural feeling).We all have our own views on those emotive words; cured, reversed, and resolved. For me, resolved feels a decent description. "We" discovered how to keep our health in the healthy window, and we understand what could well help us back-track to the less favourable numbers.
I’m a visualiser, so if I apply my rationale to something simple, I’ll go for feet and blisters.
I have small feet. I’m a small person. If I wear size 3 shoes, unless I get lucky, the shoes are a bit wider fit, and my feet stay very cool, I’ll likely develop rubbing, blisters and discomfort. Those could be on my heel or on my little toe perhaps. If I keep wearing those shoes, they may stretch a bit, or I’ll develop blisters on blisters, which could get nasty, in terms of infection or scarring.
If I’m much more sensible and wear size 3.5 shoes, I rarely see blisters, rubbing or discomfort. OK, first time worn, the shoes might be stiff, but both shoes and feet will usually adapt easily.
Isn’t this a variation on what we are doing when we re-calibrate our diets? By modifying, testing and reviewing, it’s a bit akin to having our feet measured.
When we realise a 3.5 is better than a 3, are we curing the blisters, reversing the problem or resolving the root cause of our blisters?
When we talk about “going back to how we were”, surely that’s just the same as being seduced by a very cute pair of shoes in a sale that we’ll never really wear as they hurt us, but we just can’t resist "at that price"?
Some people can only see size 3 shoe or 3.5 gives them different discomfort but everyone tells them if they persevere they will soften but wait and wait in discomfort hoping for a cure. (The shoes to mold to a permanent prosthesis like slippers and with a natural feeling).
There are plenty of drugs to assist the size 3 but 3.5 assistance is the size 3 ones with the hope they help too.
3.5 is only obtained after walking through a maze and all these temptations keep being left out in the deadends. Like any diet determined to fail as human nature is to want what you carnt have.
3.5 only fits the majority and not everyone. Size 4 or size 3.25 gets tried with discomfort too.
One size doesnt fit all. Unfortunately.
We all have our own views on those emotive words; cured, reversed, and resolved. For me, resolved feels a decent description. "We" discovered how to keep our health in the healthy window, and we understand what could well help us back-track to the less favourable numbers.
I’m a visualiser, so if I apply my rationale to something simple, I’ll go for feet and blisters.
I have small feet. I’m a small person. If I wear size 3 shoes, unless I get lucky, the shoes are a bit wider fit, and my feet stay very cool, I’ll likely develop rubbing, blisters and discomfort. Those could be on my heel or on my little toe perhaps. If I keep wearing those shoes, they may stretch a bit, or I’ll develop blisters on blisters, which could get nasty, in terms of infection or scarring.
If I’m much more sensible and wear size 3.5 shoes, I rarely see blisters, rubbing or discomfort. OK, firsmost womans feet mutate to adjust to wearing heals and so will feel comfortable after a while where as if i ate junk food my body would just get worse!
Lol was about to answer the same... most shops dont supply the half sizes I KNOW. I am a suffer of elephant feet! Small but wide! The size 3 usually arent wide enough so need to go for a size 4 or even 5 to get the width. The size 5s make my feet slip inside if they get wet (wont go into details) and size 4 always end up rubbing the little toe. I know immediately when i put my foot into a shoe if it will hurt my because either i cant get my foot in or PAIN. You dont get that with food (never had a problem shuveling food in) also i can go years without finding shoes and have to wear slippes or boots (in summer) until i find what fits me. Also our feet adjust to bad feet by creating bunyions, thick skin, or if you are a woman who has worn high heels for years knows the shape of your feet changes as well as the calf muscel shortens... this doesnt happen with food.Some people can only see size 3 shoe or 3.5 gives them different discomfort but everyone tells them if they persevere they will soften but wait and wait in discomfort hoping for a cure. (The shoes to mold to a permanent prosthesis like slippers and with a natural feeling).
There are plenty of drugs to assist the size 3 but 3.5 assistance is the size 3 ones with the hope they help too.
3.5 is only obtained after walking through a maze and all these temptations keep being left out in the deadends. Like any diet determined to fail as human nature is to want what you carnt have.
3.5 only fits the majority and not everyone. Size 4 or size 3.25 gets tried with discomfort too.
One size doesnt fit all. Unfortunately.