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Reversed or Cured?

Anthony1738 said:
Some very interesting comments and answers, I am still learning, Ive only suffered this sneaky horrible disease for nearly 4 month now but I have it well and truly under control without any medication, every morning I check my level and every morning its within the normal range, and believe me when I say that I have pushed it to the limit with carb intake, KFC, Pizza Hut, Fried Noodles, Baked potatoe, tinned Baked Beans, Fish and Chips and the list goes on and still my BG remains within the normal range, and I check it before eating, after eating 90 mins 2 hours 3 hours, Ive literally spent a fortune on testing strips, and the only difference between then and now is my beer consumption, I drink no where near the ammount I used to before my diagnosis, so if thats the reason I'll have a cup of tea thanks.

And no one has a coherent answer, if I was tested tomorrow and my bloods were in the normal range would i be diagnosed Diabetic?
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It's hard to know what is really going on in terms of glucose levels without some kind of real time monitoring.
Full control at the same level as a non diabetic would under 7.8 99% of the time an under 6.7% 91% of the time

In terms of whether anyone with normal blood sugar results would be diagnosed as diabetic, probably not - its not normal to test fasting insulin, or to carry out an OGTT - if both of those were also normal, then that truly would be indicated a diagnosis of non diabetic would be right.

I've said a few times elsewhere that I don't think it matters. In the end , I now know my diet caused my diabetes. I have no desire to readopt that diet - " cured" or not. so I am just grateful I found out how to deal with it. Its a pity more people are stuck with the eat well plate and so are not in the same position .
 
Indy51 said:
The only way the hospital would know for sure is if they give you an OGTT. Pretty sure I'd fail one, even though I've had a non-diabetic A1c for the past 5 years. I don't consider myself in remission, reversed or cured. I prefer to say "well controlled". I know if I went back to the way I was eating before diagnosis, it wouldn't take too long to be back to the same place. Not quite sure why people are so obsessed with this subject.
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How you all are controlling high sugar levels please share. I despise taking medication plus no sugar still getting high readings and kidney+eyes r being damaged from high blood sugar. Please guide and shares yours strategies. Thanks
 
mycanal said:
How you all are controlling high sugar levels please share. I despise taking medication plus no sugar still getting high readings and kidney+eyes r being damaged from high blood sugar. Please guide and shares yours strategies. Thanks
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I follow a ketogenic way of eating. Minimal carbohydrates mainly protein and fat. Seems to work well for me. Has resulted in weight loss and non-diabetic HbA1c levels.
 
mycanal said:
How you all are controlling high sugar levels please share. I despise taking medication plus no sugar still getting high readings and kidney+eyes r being damaged from high blood sugar. Please guide and shares yours strategies. Thanks
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I followed the method of "eat to your meter" outlined by the Blood Sugar 101 website/book. It involved extensive testing before and after meals to discover my personal carbohydrate tolerance - about 30g of carbs per meal. By following that limit, I can usually stay under my maximum target of 7.8 mmol after meals. And then I've kept doing that for nearly 6 years now. I don't eat grains or potatoes, with occasional legumes and other starchy veggies in small amounts. So far it's worked to keep my A1c around 34 / 5.3% (my target is under 5.5%). Both targets were established as least likely to cause complications.

See:
How To Lower Blood Sugar: http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/14045524.php
Healthy Blood Sugar Targets: http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/14045621.php
Research Connecting Organ Damage with Blood Sugar Level: http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/14045678.php
 
I have this debate with a couple of relatives who believed they had “reversed” their diabetes. They stopped testing, they are HUGE eaters and while one is retired and can go for a stroll every day, the other had to give up the gym when they had a wrist operation and surprise surprise... back went their BG levels.

They keep their stocks of Metformin and much to my amusement, they pop a pill when they have a big carby meal... like it is some miracle cure.

I think they have had to admit to themselves that if you revert to the kinds of foods we love your levels may start to creep back up. At least it stops them temporarily lecturing me on what they think I should be eating!
 
Basically I continue to track Fasting BG occasionally. It is a good indicator and I find that it correlates to HbA1c very closely when < 6%.

I use Fasting BG as a glucose overflow indicator. Ideally it should stay < 5.0 mmol. When it is high, that means my glucose store is overflowing and I need to throttle back on my carbs or overall food intake. A few days of fasting usually helps to reset it back to my baseline of 5.5 mmol.
 
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