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jopar

jopar

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My daughter was absolutely livid yesterday with the utter thoughtlessness of others.

My daughter is heavily pregnant, so as you can imagine she's very much been struggling through the heat this week, yesterday she was about done in when she finished work, and waddled down to the train station to catch her train home...

There was a few to get onto the train, as as the train pulled in it was pretty packed, as she went to get onto the train, one man barged past her to get on before her, as he could see a empty seat near the door.. so she got on the train and started working her way along the carriage, not one person offered her their seat..

She managed to find a seat right at the end of the carriage.., Then she noticed an older lady who must have been in her 70's somewhere, struggling down the carriage, unsteady on her feet, again same as with my daughter everybody watched her struggle down through but none offered their seat to her!

So has the lady got to my daughter, she stood up and said, here have my seat..

At first the lady declined, thanking her for her offer, and saying you'll heavily pregnant etc..

My daughter, reply was no I insist as nobody else is going to move, and I'll be fine you really need to be sitting I don't want you to lose your balance when the train pulls off..

She's now wondering what the world is coming to, when nobody can show any respect or even care about anybody else except for me!
 
I can't understand the mentality of anyone fit & able not giving up their seat for a pregnant lady or elderly person.
 
They should not need marked seats for elderly & pregnant - people should expect to give up their seats.

I do sometimes get offered a seat, which I accept gratefully, & I ask on behalf of my wife (not myself) if someone is occupying a reserved seat, or if they have a case on a seat, etc. And I would ask someone to move for one obviously in need, like your daughter.
 
jopar said:
My daughter was absolutely livid yesterday with the utter thoughtlessness of others.

My daughter is heavily pregnant, so as you can imagine she's very much been struggling through the heat this week, yesterday she was about done in when she finished work, and waddled down to the train station to catch her train home...

There was a few to get onto the train, as as the train pulled in it was pretty packed, as she went to get onto the train, one man barged past her to get on before her, as he could see a empty seat near the door.. so she got on the train and started working her way along the carriage, not one person offered her their seat..

She managed to find a seat right at the end of the carriage.., Then she noticed an older lady who must have been in her 70's somewhere, struggling down the carriage, unsteady on her feet, again same as with my daughter everybody watched her struggle down through but none offered their seat to her!

So has the lady got to my daughter, she stood up and said, here have my seat..

At first the lady declined, thanking her for her offer, and saying you'll heavily pregnant etc..

My daughter, reply was no I insist as nobody else is going to move, and I'll be fine you really need to be sitting I don't want you to lose your balance when the train pulls off..

She's now wondering what the world is coming to, when nobody can show any respect or even care about anybody else except for me!
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Jopar, I understand your frustration and anger. I will go out of my way to help anybody. Its todays society, and it stinks. respect, empathy and just plain good manners doesn't seem to count for much today. quote It's nice to be important, but more important to be nice
My childs school report was wonderful, effort was the top score of high throughout and her social skills skills was another top score throughout as well. I hope it will stand her on good ground throughout her adult life and to treat other people well with good manners.

I wonder if those people managed to sleep that night :wink: ...........................I just know they did :x At least the weather is getting a bit cooler now, travelling, heavily pregnant and the heat, not a good mix. RRB
 
The attitude of society stinks. My work commute involves me getting on 4 buses each day through Coventry. Naturally, the buses get quite full and there's always a lot of elderly folk about. I'm only 19 so I never ever even think twice about not offering them my seat. If I can see someone is pregnant, elderly or just struggling, I'm always the first person to offer my seat. There's nothing quite as satisfying as seeing how grateful someone is for something you've done that was virtually effortless.

It's common courtesy, and apparently that seems to have disappeared in most city-dwellers these days.
 
jopar - this is terrible, your poor daughter!!
Sadly I must say that I have noticed this kind of behaviour, downright rudeness to the point of being abusive is not just exclusive to the bigger cities.
I work in Scarborough, N. Yorks and yesterday a disabled woman struggling to walk with the aid of crutches was almost knocked over by someone trying to push past her as she entered a shop. A colleague of mine spoke up for the woman only to be sworn at with the 'excuse' of "its my lunch break, I cant wait forever, she's too slow, these cripples are a menace to society" - if I had not heard this myself I wouldnt have believed it. I am a calm, patient non-aggressive person but I felt like smacking this idiot.

I hope your daughter put her feet up and relaxed when she got home, good luck with the baby, hope all goes well with the birth and all, how exciting for you to be a grandmother.
All the best x x
 
SadlyJopar it's not uncommon to experience things like this, although every now and again someone does something to lift ones' spirits, like the cyclist who thanked me for calling my dogs to heel whilst walking on a trail in a country park.
Hana
 
I don't catch public transport very often - only if I'm going up to London on the train and then use the tube. I've been quite lucky that when the tube is full, people do tend to offer me a seat, but I'm not sure if I should be offended or not - I'm not that old or infirm! Sometimes if I'm with my husband he takes a stick with him (lots of walking makes his back play up) and he finds that really useful to get a seat. The trouble is a lot of youngsters aren't taught manners these days so they don't know any better, not that that's an excuse.
 
It is quite sad that this does happen. We ( Im early 40's) were brought up with manners,to say please and thank you, to offer our seat, open doors, offer help if someone is struggling etc and we have brought our 2 sons up this way as well .They are 17 and nearly 15. However it is not just the ''young'' who have no manners , my children over the years have got quite disheartened when they stand and hold doors open and the ''older'' generation dont even say thank you but barge right through. Over the years we have gotten used to them saying Mum why didnt he/she say thankyou :(

However they still hold the doors open .


Got to add when I was expecting our eldest I was soooooo huge that if I was ever standing to cross the road cars would stop for me no problems :lol:
 
Good manners and little gestures cost nothing but mean so much. I too was brought up to say please and thank you; to apologise if you knocked into someone (whether it was your fault or theirs); to let people out of a room/shop before trying to enter yourself (there's more room for you to get in once they're out); to give up my seat if someone needed it more than me; to hold doors open for anyone and to smile and say hello to people I vaguely recognise as I walk up the road.

I hope my sons are as considerate but I'm not always there to check. I have noticed one or two lapses when they've been distracted and pulled them up because of it.

But other people don't bother at all. You hold a door for someone following you out of a shop and they don't even put their hand out to take it or even acknowledge that you were holding it in the first place! You offer a seat to an older person and someone younger dives into it before they've have a chance to sit down and people don't make eye contact anymore. These days people seem shocked if anyone offers assistance or even says thankyou. It's a very sad reflection of today's society.
 
People are more absorbed with themselves than they've ever been before. I know I'm guilty of it on occassion. It's just a case of being so down trodden (tough day at the office?) that you don't want to interact with anyone, so you lock yourself in a little one person world for the duration of things like train journeys, so as to NOT have to interact with the few friendly strangers that there still are!

Terrible, isn't it?!?

Unfortunately, this also means that you miss the times when you SHOULD be interacting, ie - BEING one of the nice people!

Your daughter deserves a medal, firstly for putting up with these people, and secondly, for giving up a seat for the elderly woman.
 
People all ways surprise me with seats on trains due to not being steady on my feet i always book a seat when going anywhere by train but the times even on an empty train i have to get someone to move and they do moan about it
but on the other side have been on the tube and have been asked if i would like a seat most times do not always take them up on the offer if i have a place to stand against the side but its nice they ask
 
Some time ago I was in a lage designer outlet outdoors. It was rainng quite hard {surprise] so I was walking quite quickly but the place was not very busy and visibility was good.
Suddenly I was almost knocked off my feet by something hitting me hard in he back of my legs. No sound, no warning and my cmpanion had heard nothing either .
When I turned around I found it was one of those large monbility vehicles. The elderly woman "driving it " said "Don't you look at me like that! It wasn' my fault you were walking in front of me! The young girl wih her almos died of embarrassment.
Even more so when I told the driver exactly what I thought of her manners and asked her what would have happened to a child "walking in front of her"?
Naurally I am in fsvour of the disabled being mobile but not when they are a danger to others. They are not supposed to be racing cars! As someone who probably needs assistance from others her aggressive behaviour wasn't much of an incentive.
It is by no means the younger generation who are solely to blame.
Basically it is all about treating others as you would want to be treated . Unfortunately people do seem to lack empathy with others - across he generations.
 
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