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Sheilding Update??

Got my letter too. And I’m not shielding. Just social distancing. Am a fit, no other health issues good weight type 1.
Plus you can shoot me but am not wearing a mask. I feel they are more dangerous. People fiddle with them all the time and keep pulling them down. They are posturing instead of being vigilant. To wear them properly you put them on, do not touch take them off and put in a bag then wash hands. How many people do you think are doing that. Very few. Yes they wear them in Asia, but for goodness sake that’s where this virus came from. From a live animal market. Do we want to follow that too. No!
 
becca59 said:
Got my letter too. And I’m not shielding. Just social distancing. Am a fit, no other health issues good weight type 1.
Plus you can shoot me but am not wearing a mask. I feel they are more dangerous. People fiddle with them all the time and keep pulling them down. They are posturing instead of being vigilant. To wear them properly you put them on, do not touch take them off and put in a bag then wash hands. How many people do you think are doing that. Very few. Yes they wear them in Asia, but for goodness sake that’s where this virus came from. From a live animal market. Do we want to follow that too. No!
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I’ll stand in the firing line with you as I don’t wear a mask either. I find that the people with masks are the ones who go the wrong way in the one way system and dart from side to side picking up their shopping with complete disregard for the customers or supermarket staff that they get too close to. I’m relatively fit and healthy however my OH has several health issues but isn’t shielding but could be classed as vulnerable so I am still wary about where I go and ensure I keep my distance. I’ve been doing this since the week before lock down and will not be hurrying to change too much.
 
Thanks @JohnEGreen .I have received the same letter today.

Doesn’t inspire confidence, does it? Going to continue doing my own risk assessments, and act accordingly. Which will mean I will still be quite anti-social. I am fortunate in that I am retired. Would be very concerned if I had to go into work and use public transport.
The info about being registered with seven supermarkets and availability of priority delivery plus assistance with medicine delivery etc, I found mildly amusing, as I have never been able to access these. Thank goodness I have people around me prepared to look after these issues.
 
Daphne917 said:
I find that the people with masks are the ones who go the wrong way in the one way system and dart from side to side picking up their shopping with complete disregard for the customers or supermarket staff that they get too close to.
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How strange in my local shop it's the ones without masks who have little regard for their own or others safety doing that.

There is a bus stop opposite my house and I have been watching the appearance of queues of masked people waiting for a bus. One of them had a Red Indian friend with him and kept shouting Hi-Ho Silver away but there was no horse in sight.

Another had a striped jersey on must of been going home from the late shift. :)
 
becca59 said:
Plus you can shoot me but am not wearing a mask. I feel they are more dangerous. People fiddle with them all the time and keep pulling them down. They are posturing instead of being vigilant.
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I'm not going to shoot you down. The greater danger to my safety is people not wearing a mask, at least I can choose to avoid you by about 30 feet or more.

You're dead right, people do fiddle and some haven't got a clue by wearing them like a hammock for a beard. But people wearing them aren't trying to impress or mislead anyone, that really is inaccurate and that's being polite.

On the other hand over 50 countries have made them mandatory, some as far back as early March. Here are some of those countries and I'm pretty sure posturing has nothing to do with those countries making it mandatory, some imposing huge fines and jail sentences.
Venezuela early March.
Vietnam March 16.
Czech Republic first European country March 18yh
Slovakia March 25 President Zuzana Caputova wore a red one that matched her dress during the swearing-in ceremony of the new government.
Bosnia and Herzegovina March 29th
Colombia April 4th
United Arab Emirates April 4th
Cuba April 6th
Ecuador April 7th
Austria April 6th
Morocco April 7th
Turkey April 7th
El Salvador April 8th
Chile April 8th
Cameroon April 9th followed by Angola, Benin, Burkina Faso, Equatorial Guinea, Ethiopia, Gabon, Guinea, Kenya, Liberia, Rwanda, Sierra Leone, and Zambia.
Israel April 12th
Argentina April 14th
Poland April 16th
Luxembourg April 20th
Jamaica April 21st
Germany April 22nd
Bahrain April 22nd
Qatar April 26th
Honduras May 3rd
Uganda May 5th
France May 10th
Spain May 20th
South Korea May 26th – interesting note – the people had been wearing them anyway.
Lebanon May 29th
Pakistan May 30th Source: Wiki and Al Jazera Wiki has a large list of countries where mask wearing is over 80% so not in the list above.
Shame it's so difficult to compare apples and oranges to see what difference, if any, has been achieved.
 
Having been shielding for about 14 weeks I was starting to feel that I may be starting to become agoraphobic, so this evening I walked to Brierley Park and back not many people about but enough to make me a little nervous.
 
I talked to some old friends tonight and we all said how nervous we were when going gout for the first time. Second times gets easier
 
Got my letter today. Surprised husband by telling him I had already read it.

I would quite like to get out but I am happy to watch and wait. I get the feeling that some people think it's all over and we are more or less back to normal. A mistake now would likely be my last and that concentrates the mind.
 
I am very concerned about going anywhere, having been in isolation since March 20th. I work as A Dental Hygienist so a very high risk work environment and I am considering leaving my profession. I wish there was more clarification of what is "Covud Safe "
 
becca59 said:
Got my letter too. And I’m not shielding. Just social distancing. Am a fit, no other health issues good weight type 1.
Plus you can shoot me but am not wearing a mask. I feel they are more dangerous. People fiddle with them all the time and keep pulling them down. They are posturing instead of being vigilant. To wear them properly you put them on, do not touch take them off and put in a bag then wash hands. How many people do you think are doing that. Very few. Yes they wear them in Asia, but for goodness sake that’s where this virus came from. From a live animal market. Do we want to follow that too. No!
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I am actually quite shocked that you have stated that people wearing masks are 'posturing instead of being vigilant'.
You have no idea of their personal health history and likely risk level.
Nor do you know whether they are wearing that mask to reduce the risk to people they live with, rather than themselves.

Unless you mean that the people who wear masks and fiddle are posturing, while those who wear masks and don't fiddle are not posturing?

And do you really think that the origin of the virus has anything to do with whether individuals in the UK should, or should not, wear a mask based on their personal risk of death if they should be infected with COVID-19?

One thing I wholeheartedly agree with you on is that if someone is going to wear a mask they should do so properly, not fiddle with it, and then dispose of it properly.
 
At what point will they bring back shielding.
It's reckoned the incidence is 1 in 1700 atm.

I am just old and sick but not in the shielded group. It would have to be 1 in 10,000 at least for me to cross the threshold of a shop.

Will they bring back shielding at 1 in 250 incidence in a second wave? It would be c.1 in 100 at the last peak and 65000 died in total.

Anyway they said next time they will use different criteria for who qualifies for shielding.
D.
 
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Brunneria said:
I am actually quite shocked that you have stated that people wearing masks are 'posturing instead of being vigilant'.
You have no idea of their personal health history and likely risk level.
Nor do you know whether they are wearing that mask to reduce the risk to people they live with, rather than themselves.

Unless you mean that the people who wear masks and fiddle are posturing, while those who wear masks and don't fiddle are not posturing?

And do you really think that the origin of the virus has anything to do with whether individuals in the UK should, or should not, wear a mask based on their personal risk of death if they should be infected with COVID-19?

One thing I wholeheartedly agree with you on is that if someone is going to wear a mask they should do so properly, not fiddle with it, and then dispose of it properly.
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Wearing masks is a no brainer.
Its barmy how they failed repeatedly to be endorsed, except for transport.

Perhaps they didnt want health care workers without ppe to feel out of it!
 
Apart from one or two persons the only people I have seen locally wearing masks are those waiting for a bus.

I went to the local park yesterday tentatively and in the evening, of the people in the park who all where a good distance from me I made sure of that, I was the only one with a mask and gloves.
 
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