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I am newly diagnosed and my sugar levels are still largely uncontrolled. Yet, I'm up at 4 in the morning and I am so HUNGRY!!! i'm thinking of having tea and nuts but my fasting sugar has been constantly above 10!
I am so hungry people. :(.
 

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Hi @anyasij85
welcome to the forum :)

I am tagging @daisy1 for her wonderful starter pack of info for all new people on the forum.

there are many low calorie / carb snacks that you can consider if you are feeling hungary and bloods are running high

raw vegetables with a good olive oil is my first thought.

so celery , broccoli , cauliflower , peppers , -- served with a small dipping bowl of good quality virgin olive oil is a really tasty and very low carb / cal snack

a few drops of a chilli infused olive oil added in is a zesty addition
 

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I am newly diagnosed and my sugar levels are still largely uncontrolled. Yet, I'm up at 4 in the morning and I am so HUNGRY!!! i'm thinking of having tea and nuts but my fasting sugar has been constantly above 10!
I am so hungry people. :(.

No carbs at all in packs of dried bacon. None either in M&S slices of smoked cheese....or maybe a trace in other makers. A couple of big squares of Lindt 90% cocoa chocolate is nice (if you can acquire the dark taste - I did). Next to no carbs, of course, in bacon and eggs. An omelette's quick. You can also buy an assortment of tins of wee John West flavoured tuna (pretty low in carbs) . the chilli stuff's tasty. Tuna on its own - no carbs. Hot dog sausages. Cold meats (many are very low carb and some have none at all). Avocados are really good for you.
Check the labels in the shops and try anything that's 10g carb per 100g of product or less - only way to find stuff you actually like. The levels will come down the more you can stay away from products with more than 10g carbohydrate per 100g. That said, there is little point in aiming at a seriously strict diet you just can't stick too - being in control of those blood sugar levels is vital but so is not being utterly miserable and demotivated. Persistence allowed me to get levels down to normal so long as I'm strict, but as they have come down well, I allow myself the odd croissant or chocolate bread....even some bran flakes and it will cause a small spike...but I feel ok about that but I have to be careful not to get into the habit. Once I had it under control, I experimented with the odd higher carb food (when my levels were under 6.0mmols)...a coupe of bits of thin pizza now and then are okish for me...we all differ. Good luck.
 
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@anyasij85

Hello Anya and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful and will be able to see the good things you can eat. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
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It may sound crazy, but your hunger pangs could actually be caused by dehydration - try drinking a large glass of water if you wake up hungry in the night
 
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anyasij85

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Thank you all for your helpful suggestions. I live in Kenya so a lot of the tinned suggestions may be unavailable. I tried water but I was still so hungry. I just got up and took my fasting sugar (at 4) which was 9.7 and had a meal and took my drugs.
 
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I was the same.

Water does help, but not entirely.
In my case it was simply a matter of reducing the food, and training my stomach to cope.
I also needed to lose a lot of weight, so reduced calorie worked well for me, low calorie, low carb, low fat.
Carrot sticks, (no olive oil though, way too many calories :) ), were a good nibble for the odd moments when you're looking in the fridge wondering what not to eat.

I also found planning the day helped. Little and often, so even though I was hungry, it was easier knowing I would be having a snack in the near future.

And if you newly diagnosed, it does take a while for BS to come down, so take it slowly.

Avoid the carbs, sukuma wiki is good, maharagwe should be ok is you are ok with the beans.
Potatoes, plantains, rice, flour, bread, are all bad snacks I'm afraid though.
 
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anyasij85

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I was the same.

Water does help, but not entirely.
In my case it was simply a matter of reducing the food, and training my stomach to cope.
I also needed to lose a lot of weight, so reduced calorie worked well for me, low calorie, low carb, low fat.
Carrot sticks, (no olive oil though, way too many calories :) ), were a good nibble for the odd moments when you're looking in the fridge wondering what not to eat.

I also found planning the day helped. Little and often, so even though I was hungry, it was easier knowing I would be having a snack in the near future.

And if you newly diagnosed, it does take a while for BS to come down, so take it slowly.

Avoid the carbs, sukuma wiki is good, maharagwe should be ok is you are ok with the beans.
Potatoes, plantains, rice, flour, bread, are all bad snacks I'm afraid though.

Midnight snacking has always been an issue for me :( and I do need to lose a lot of weight. I had sukuma yesterday with very little ugali for lunch and some avocado and my sugar really went up. It seems to only stay low when I eat cucumber! I wonder if Polyuria is okay
 

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Midnight snacking has always been an issue for me :( and I do need to lose a lot of weight. I had sukuma yesterday with very little ugali for lunch and some avocado and my sugar really went up. It seems to only stay low when I eat cucumber! I wonder if Polyuria is okay
I meant *pilau
 

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anyasij85

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@anyasij85

Hello Anya and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful and will be able to see the good things you can eat. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Thank you. There are a lot of diabetics in my family so I know what I SHOULD do but I find that my body usually wants to so something totally different :(

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celery with cream cheese is very nice too !!
 

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I meant *pilau

Definitely not uglai I'm afraid.
Pilau is slightly better, but not if you've been recently diagnosed.
It's one of the things to try when your numbers have improved, and see what effect a small amount has on you.

Try a small amount of avocado as a snack maybe, but bear in mind it's very calorific.
Cucumber sticks would be a good idea for midnight snacks.
I don't like celery, so can't comment on that, but cottage cheese was something I ate occasionally, it's cold, a reasonable texture and flavour when you fancy a snack, (so long as you plan it into your menu).
 
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