Should the law mandate vegan meals

LittleGreyCat

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Two issues here.

One is allowing a significant minority of the population to follow their sincerely held dietary choice when they don't have the freedom to select where they eat. This especially applies in hospitals. I am sure many of the LCHF brigade will be sensitive to this because it is not always easy to avoid high carbohydrate food in hospitals. Nobody should have to rely on family and friends to be able to eat properly and safely when in hospital.

The second is using this significant minority of the population as a base for extreme political activism. I suspect that the majority of vegetarians and vegans would be enormously happy to have access to good quality food of their choice without supporting some of the more extreme demands.

The two issues seem to be too entangled here. I am happy to eat vegetarian and vegan food as long as I also have access to animal protein when it suits my dietary needs. Mandating availability is not the same as banning animal products. Refusing to supply does seem to unfairly disadvantage the vulnerable.
 

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Be who you are, eat what keeps you healthy, to thine own self be true, and judge others not unjustly because they do not follow your ways, and for goodness sake give it a rest mate, and that last bit is not aimed at anyone in particular.
This land of ours, this Sceptered Isle, this land of Albion and Britannia, mists and mellow fruitfulness, is one small group of islands in a giant world, to convert everything to crop and cereal growth would not make a great deal of difference to the worlds emissions, climate wise or other, what extra millions of souls would we feed?
We have to import food as it is, to keep who we have fed, we have no great land mass compared to the worlds most dense populated regions, some of which are yet to emerge into a full industrial age, whilst others which have already gone fully industrial emit a steadily rising emissions level, which dwarfs any differences we as minnows do make.
Yes we should strive to be better, cleaner, greener, but not by knee jerk political decisions, or the wishes of some vocal minority, who give the appearance at times of ethical superiority, we have had all sorts of ethical news feeds thrown around, mostly by the various media outlets that appear to thrive not on serious discourse or facts, but on sheer, whatever at the moment makes sensation and grabs notice.
A good example is food air miles, we must all be aware where our food comes from around the globe and revert to locally grown only, - that in reality is just not do able
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As per above, the page jumped and posted before I had finished writing, RE- Food air miles, we can`t all source food grown locally, people In major cities buy whats in the shops where they live, and usually what is cheap and filling, there is very little locally produced food in major population centres, and if we do not fly in food from various countries around the world, what then happens to the people producing that food, their market gone, no income, how do they then survive, international co operation in food distribution is part of modern day life, being prissy and not buying anything other than locally produced is fine if you can afford it, but not everyone can, and others throughout the world rely on us buying from them to survive too, if we all stopped doing it, how many more people throughout the world would be put into dire straits by that action, how many others here who rely on the aircraft and freight haulage, customs and shipping industries would also be put in dire straights too.
So as a final sum up, please look carefully at what you see on television.what you read in the news papers, and what you hear on radio, and ask yourself if really you have the whole story, the whole truth, and not just what some pressure group, outraged minority, or self serving politician whats you to believe, try to see the wider picture, there are nearly 70 million of us on these islands, this Britain, and we are all different, and long may that be so.
 

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Marie 2

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It should not be mandated, but it certainly would be nice that if there is enough of a demand for vegan lunches that one is supplied. There are also people that eat vegan off and on that aren't vegan overall because it usually is a healthier choice.

It is a choice to be a vegan. But yes I am a vegan because of ethical reasons. People are vegan for all sorts of reasons and it distinguishes vegans in our community as to what drove you to become a vegan or stay a vegan. For me it was and is an ethical choice, I will not kill or cause the killing of an animal to eat it. I have been a vegetarian for 50 years and a vegan for over 30 of those years.

There are quite a lot of vegans in the UK!
 

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Hi to Marie 2, Bless you, and keep you safe, I wholeheartedly see where you are at with your lifestyle, and deeply and truly respect you for it, no ifs buts or maybe, I will not hunt or kill any creature for fun or so called sport, I have in the past in particularly hard times, killed other creatures for food, and I still will to end suffering, and I will buy meat poultry and fish when I can to keep me and mine alive, and should the need arise I will kill for food again.
I fully understand that there are many vegans in the UK, and that the choice for you, in restaurants and eateries can be very poor or non existent at times, and that comes down to supply and demand unfortunately, if there is not the demand why should someone attempt to supply, and a specialist restaurant will of course push it prices way up, my initial writing is more on how can any government actually in all honestly, or in any form of common sense, legislate against the many, for the needs of the relatively few, then say it is in the public interest to do so.
 
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I have been a meatarian for seventy four years, I see no need to change my diet.

We are grazing on this piece of non vegan mandated corned silverside at the moment.

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