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Type 2 Side effects #Newbie worries #acceptance

Cella 2

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Good Morning,
I’m very new to this jouney with Type 2, im trying to get to get to the point of acceptance but am struggling.
My Husband is Type 1 and i play a supportive role for him..which has provided me a healthy understanding and respcet of diabetics. However im really struggling with the side effects of medication. Just 6 weeks in and i had to come off the metformin x 4 and was placed on the slow release medication....the side effects are still there but slighly reduced. The side effects of sickness, constant diarrhoea, and not wanting to eat are really impactng upon me , my family and work. After being glued to the loo since 4am and not being fit to do the school run im feeling very fed up. I hate the impact of this medication and i cant forcus on eating well or excercise when i feel so rough...any advice welcome. Please tell me it tets better.
 
There are a lot of ways to improve the situation, and I'm confident things will get better for you. You may be able to reduce your medication or even get off medication altogether. Failing that, there will be other medication options.
On top of that, the first month or so is bound to be more difficult- you'll find your feet and feel better as you go on.
 
Hi Cella and welcome!
First let me tag in @daisy1 for her useful welcome info post. To help with your questions can you tell us a little more so we can help you. What is the name and dosage of meds you take now? Are you monitoring your blood sugars and have you modified your diet since diagnosis? Type 1 and type 2 are very different conditions so you may have a little more learning to do.
Btw I’m on Metformin and after initial stomach upset I tolerate it well now. As Geordie says there’s loads of alternative to try or if your blood results aren’t too high you could tackle this with diet alone.
 
Tagging @daisy1 for the info pack offered to all newcomers.

Welcome to the forum. It would help us to help you if you could give a few details. May I ask how what a typical day's menu looks like and what your HbA1c was at diagnosis, please?

Metformin tummy can take a while to settle for some people and some can't tolerate even the slow release version. Addressing your diet may help with this and we may be able to help you tweak yours. Do you have your own glucometer?
 
Hi Cella and welcome!
First let me tag in @daisy1 for her useful welcome info post. To help with your questions can you tell us a little more so we can help you. What is the name and dosage of meds you take now? Are you monitoring your blood sugars and have you modified your diet since diagnosis? Type 1 and type 2 are very different conditions so you may have a little more learning to do.
Btw I’m on Metformin and after initial stomach upset I tolerate it well now. As Geordie says there’s loads of alternative to try or if your blood results aren’t too high you could tackle this with diet alone.
what she said!
 
I had no problems with Metformin slow release, but I was told to take them after my main meal in the evening. Are you taking them with food?
 
@Cella 2

Hello Cella 2 and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it both interesting and useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 
Hi @Cella 2
Like you I had problems with both types of metformin. I simply stopped taking them as they were severely impacting on my ability to function. I then proceeded to reduce my carbohydrate consumption to near zero by following a ketogenic diet. This led to a reduction in HbA1c levels to "normal" (or maybe even slightly lower).
Does your husband follow a low carb diet as a Type 1? A lot of people have found they need a lot less insulin if they do.
There is a new Type 1 low carb program being launched here very soon from Dr Ian Lake a low carbing type 1.

Edit to add I meant that it was something you could maybe try together.
 
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Hi. First it shouldn't matter when your take Met SR as it's Slow Release by definition. If it still gives problems after a week or two then agree with GP to stop it. It never does that much and not worth suffering any side effects. I'm one of the lucky ones started with SR 15 years ago and no problems at all apart form the metallic weird taste for 6 months.
 
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