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Elaine p

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hey everyone, I’m a newbie so please excuse any ignorance. I’ve just measured my bg levels after having my tea and got 5.6. I ate salmon and vegetables with Greek yogurt and strawberries. I wondering if I had added some good carbs to the meal and raised my bg level, would I have more energy as I can’t remember not feeling exhausted all the time. Thanks all x
 
if you added a little butter or anything fatty to the vegetables, if the yogurt was full fat, then you should be adequately nourished - assuming that your portions were adequate. Do you know how many carbs the vegetables and fruit contained?
There are no good carbs to add - raising your BG levels would just result in insulin being released and, as many people are less insulin resistant in the evenings your BG levels would then drop and you would feel very tired.
Are you aiming for a specific amount of carbs each day?
 
I don’t consider any carbs to be good, they all mess up my blood sugars to a greater or lesser degree. If you are feeling like you’re lacking energy you need to up your fats (good ones) to replace the energy missing from lowering your carbs.

Edit to add, btw no question is silly if you need it answering :)
 
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hey everyone, I’m a newbie so please excuse any ignorance. I’ve just measured my bg levels after having my tea and got 5.6. I ate salmon and vegetables with Greek yogurt and strawberries. I wondering if I had added some good carbs to the meal and raised my bg level, would I have more energy as I can’t remember not feeling exhausted all the time. Thanks all x
Long story short: there are no good carbs for a diabetic. 5.6 is perfect so it's not your bloodsugar that is making you feel tired right now. If you've recently started to go low carb, the fatigue you're feeling will pass. It's probably part of carb-flu or keto-flu, which means your body is transitioning, or detoxing, if you will. Throw a bunch of carbs in there, and the process'll just take longer. (Can take a few days up to a week or two.). It's a pain in the b*tt, but it is worth it. Bone broth or coconut milk (unsweetened) will most likely make you feel better, as you're probably low on electrolytes right now. Add some extra salt to your diet too. T2's often are vitamin D deficient, so maybe some supplements will help too.

Don't look to carbs for answers unless you're hypo, that's really all they're good for. ;)

Not sure if you've seen this, but I'll tag @daisy1 for the welcome pack.

Good luck!!!! (Been there!)
Jo
 
My gp suspected I may be vit d deficient so had a blood test last week, awaiting results. Thanks for all the other info x
 
My gp suspected I may be vit d deficient so had a blood test last week, awaiting results. Thanks for all the other info x

Hi @Elaine p ,

I notice you're down as insulin dependant? Is this correct? What regime are you prescribed if so?
 
B12 is another common tiredness ( and other symptoms) cause as is thyroid hormones or iron or ferretin. Might well be worth checking if these levels were included in your checks. NHS acceptable levels are really quite low and some people may be symptomatic in range.
There are relatively cheap supplements for most available over the counter but make sure you get the ones your body can actually use. The cheapest do nothing but get peed out again unabsorbed, particularly cheap b12. Methylcobalamin is the type that really works.
 
Jaycee - i’m Not sure what insulin dependent is but I use insulin twice a day before breakfast and evening meal, 16 and 14 units of Humulin respectively. My next question was to be should I be on a lower dose of insulin? Also, I’m a little confused about a post saying if you don’t eat carbs you don’t need insulin for that meal. My DN said to inject even if i’m Not eating a meal. Thanks x
 
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@Elaine p

Hello Elaine and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 
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