Slimfast et al

[T2#Me]

My wife and I were interested in a recent newspaper story about Roy Taylor and his diet using food shakes (and vegetables) ... seems to me as a suspicious layman to be a calories in - calories out diet, with short term good effects, however so far no proven long term effects eg "when you are re-introduced to real food" as the newspaper puts it. Perhaps I am misjudging ...

However, it introduced us to investigating the wonderful wacky world of food shakes, so intrepidly I tried a Slimfast meal shake, for fun. Strawberry. Nice, I enjoyed it

On the face of it, it is very convenient to have a drink which you know is exactly 3 carbohydrate, 204 calories,15 protein, some fibre 23 vitamins/minerals, however obviously it makes you wonder what else is in there, eg flavouring.

Sadly, watching Jason Fung today, he happened to mention during a lecture that people do turn to various things in their fighting the flab, one of which is meal replacement shakes, which he states are highly processed, does NOT recommend

I can instantly see the hard sell marketing by Slimfast, with their plans and drinks and bars and treats and advice forum, no doubt relying on people using these things for convenience (tempting, I admit) but not actually keeping on the straight and narrow for long (as if I would ) ...

Is there a scenario where these replacement liquid meals would be deemed useful and safe for T2 sufferers, and could be recommended) despite the Fung veto, anyone?

Thanks and regards

 

[NoCrbs4Me]

Just google "Newcastle Diet".

 

[Mbaker]

The shakes method for reversing Type 2 can work. There are however 3 things to note which to his credit Professor Roy Taylor details in his protocol.

The first thing to know is that due to the diet being low calorie there is a slow down in metabolic rate (not good). The second point is that you have to eat a third less than you did before starting the diet. The third thing to keep in mind is that exercise is prescribed. Knowledge is power, so at least persons who take this route know the good and bad.

 

[ringi]

One easy way to eat a 3rd less is just to advoid all "dence" carbs and suger but keep the rest of the food the same. (moderate low carb)

Have a look at the "eight week blood suger diet" book for a way to do a 800 call diet with real food.

However personally I think very low carb with or without intermittent fasting is easier.

 

[Daibell]

A few points. If you like Slimfast products and the carbs are low (vital) then do have them but forget calories as they are of little relevance for us and can encourage reducing fats rather than carbs. Calories make a good marketing tool but not much use otherwise as the body handles foods in different ways so the input measure isn't of great value.