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Nt20

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Hi, does anyone know if there is a smartwatch that will work with the libre 2 sensor,also will it take readings if you dont have your phone with you ?
Many thanks
 
Hi and welcome to the forum @Nt20 .There have been a number of discussions on the subject of smart watches . I’m going to tag @EllieM . I recall she did some personal research on them .

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Nt20 said:
Hi, does anyone know if there is a smartwatch that will work with the libre 2 sensor,also will it take readings if you dont have your phone with you ?
Many thanks
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Hi,
I am currently wearing a Samsung Galaxy Watch 7 which shows my current blood sugar reading. I wear it so I can easily check it whilst driving the car. It has to be near my phone, it cannot take readings direct from the sensor (I'm unsure if Apple watches can). On the phone, the LibreLink takes readings from the sensor, then you need LibreLinkUp to pass the readings on to an app which communicates with a companion app on the watch. I'm using Gluroo as I found it easiest to set up and it works really well. Gluroo automatically loads its companion app onto the watch.
Hope that helps,
Dave
 
Antje77 said:
I think @Jaylee knows which Apple watch works as a standalone receiver.
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Not Apple for me. (though they are nice devices.)

Hi @Nt20 .

I have a Galaxy watch which can act as a stand alone with Libre 2 & the plus. I’ve tried it.
But one does need Juggluco wear app installed on the watch which can be downloaded from the play store. (Like the phone app Juggluco is free.)
There is an option with the app to “hand over” the BT signal from the Libre to the watch?

Didn’t even need the latest model. (Thus spending big bucks?) An old GW MK4 does it for me.
 
Jaylee said:
Not Apple for me. (though they are nice devices.)

Hi @Nt20 .

I have a Galaxy watch which can act as a stand alone with Libre 2 & the plus. I’ve tried it.
But one does need Juggluco wear app installed on the watch which can be downloaded from the play store. (Like the phone app Juggluco is free.)
There is an option with the app to “hand over” the BT signal from the Libre to the watch?

Didn’t even need the latest model. (Thus spending big bucks?) An old GW MK4 does it for me.
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Oh, I thought it was only possible with Apple, which is why I've never really looked into it. I'm starting to get interested now...
Can you calibrate in Juggluco? I still use DiaBox on my phone, and a watch with uncalibrated Libre numbers would be pretty useless for me. Calibrated however...
I'd love to not always have to carry my phone!
 
Antje77 said:
Oh, I thought it was only possible with Apple, which is why I've never really looked into it. I'm starting to get interested now...
Can you calibrate in Juggluco? I still use DiaBox on my phone, and a watch with uncalibrated Libre numbers would be pretty useless for me. Calibrated however...
I'd love to not always have to carry my phone!
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I personally never needed to calibrate with Diabox though a solid app on my phone it played up with a smart watch.

Juggluco. It works seamless on a 5 year old cheap flagship phone that for me still holds up

In my experience the cheaper Galaxy watch 4 can do the job with the app.
Don’t get the even cheaper Galaxy fit 3. (My wife has one. Nice watch & she loves it. I’m thinking if only on the diabetes app front. But won’t download apps.)

In my opinion. You don’t need to spend £££$$ or €€€s on new tech with a watch just know what to aquire & the apps to get it to do what you require..

Regarding the member asking this?
Nt20 said:
Hi, does anyone know if there is a smartwatch that will work with the libre 2 sensor,also will it take readings if you dont have your phone with you ?
Many thanks
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This is what I know & work with.. in response to the initial question. :)
 
I use an Apple Watch SE with Xdrip4ios (same as zukka in the App Store) which shows readings on the watch. But only if the phone is within range.
 
Jaylee said:
I personally never needed to calibrate with Diabox though a solid app on my phone it played up with a smart watch.

Juggluco. It works seamless on a 5 year old cheap flagship phone that for me still holds up
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Problem is that the Libre app will show me as in the 4's when I'm well into the 6's, and as hypo when I'm right where I want to be. Thankfully my endo accepts my calibrated graphs.
I'd love a standalone watch with an app allowing to calibrate but I'm not sure such a thing exists, and I don't want to buy an expensive tool which also messes with my sensory issues by sitting on my wrist if it only gives me the naked Libre results.
I'll have to look into this!
 
@Antje77 have you considered moving to dexcom, which can be calibrated.... It does have the direct to watch feature if you have an apple watch and phone, but costwise it sounds like libre and jugloco is much cheaper, if as @Jaylee says it works without the phone.
 
Antje77 said:
Problem is that the Libre app will show me as in the 4's when I'm well into the 6's, and as hypo when I'm right where I want to be. Thankfully my endo accepts my calibrated graphs.
I'd love a standalone watch with an app allowing to calibrate but I'm not sure such a thing exists, and I don't want to buy an expensive tool which also messes with my sensory issues by sitting on my wrist if it only gives me the naked Libre results.
I'll have to look into this!
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OK, I’ve not needed to calibrate.. but I’ve just had a. Look at the Juggluco phone app & it can be done?
It might be worth trying it on your phone first?

Getting back to the watch being a stand alone.
This is the dev’s blurb On the wear OS app.

Juggluco for WearOS

www.juggluco.nl www.juggluco.nl
 
EllieM said:
@Antje77 have you considered moving to dexcom, which can be calibrated.... It does have the direct to watch feature if you have an apple watch and phone, but costwise it sounds like libre and jugloco is much cheaper, if as @Jaylee says it works without the phone.
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Stupidly, a couple of years ago, my government has decided to fund 'flash' monitors but not true CGMs, unless there is an additional need for it. They haven't changed the rule even though costs are the same and Libre is a true CGM nowadays, except for in my country.
We still get the Libre 2 which needs to be scanned to tranfer data, although it does have alarms. Libre 3, Dexcom etc are only for people with additional needs. Doesn't matter for me, I've turned my Libre 2 into a CGM years ago with DiaBox, but I doubt if I can get Dexcom funded.
Jaylee said:
OK, I’ve not needed to calibrate.. but I’ve just had a. Look at the Juggluco phone app & it can be done?
It might be worth trying it on your phone first?
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Thanks!
Time to play with my phone. :joyful:
 
becca59 said:
Libra shouldn’t need scanning for data transfer. I am confused.
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Hi,

If one was going phone free for a while the data from the Libre would be missed on the librelink phone app as the sensor is out of range.. (the watch would be picking it up.)
So in this case you would need to NFC scan with the phone to backfill any missed data causing a gap/dropout on the Abbott app?
Which I believe is upto 8 hours worth kept on the Libre sensor?
 
becca59 said:
Libra shouldn’t need scanning for data transfer. I am confused.
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Different country and not applicable to you!
It's because of the lagging Dutch government that Libre 2 isn't a full CGM in the Netherlands, unless used with 3rd party apps like DiaBox or Juggluco.
Abbot still wants to sell their sensors to our Dutch health care system so with the Dutch LibreLink app you need to scan if you want to see your number.

Don't worry about it if you're in the UK!
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OK, I’ve not needed to calibrate.. but I’ve just had a. Look at the Juggluco phone app & it can be done?
It might be worth trying it on your phone first?
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Thanks again @Jaylee !
I find the app very hard to navigate but at least I found a way of turning off the alarms after an hour of trying. It's not fully calibrated yet so it thinks I'm low when I'm not.

I'll play with it some more on my phone before deciding if I'll get a smartwatch. It may make me very happy so seriously considering for the first time, thanks to this thread. :)
 
Interesting stuff.
I assume you still have to start the new sensor with the phone?
 
As far as I’m aware the only real direct to watch option is Dexcom g7 and Apple Watch, I never had the chance to test as I was on the g6 now I’m no longer in Dexcom


The big issue for watches is battery life, many of which only last 18 or so hours without disabling features, you then add repeated connection to a bg sensor, and the fact the app can not be suspended to save power, you quickly get a watch that spend half it life on the charger

Also if you are in the UK, smart watches and driving are in a slight legal gray area.. in legal terms they are considered a mobile device, and using one can have the same legal actions as using a mobile phone

In fact there is an oddity in the law, that means it could be ‘more legal’ to use the phone, because you CAN legally operate a mobile phone if it’s in a cradle…. Many phones have always on displays which there are ways to show the bg there, or on the lock screen, or even a widget on the Home Screen

There are also ways that you can get the voice assistant to read your bg or to open the libre app

So the ‘to use whilst driving’ is not a valid reason for a watch, I do however always wear a smartwatch, and I can always find several ways to display my bg on them…. So get a smartwatch if you want one, and it’s certainly easier at home as my phone stays in 1 place, and I can easily see my bg
 
LittleGreyCat said:
Interesting stuff.
I assume you still have to start the new sensor with the phone?
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Hi,

I do.
I start a new sensor with the libre app first then open Juggluco & scan again, waiting for the hour warmup to start . Then I’m good to go.
What I do do is remove the last sensor from the “cache” in the juggluco app or it tells me the last sensor is disconnected whilst reading the new one?
The watch complication will get the BGs around the same time..

@searley Galaxy watches are not known for great battery life either. Probably get 36hs out of it with what I use it for? Before the next charge.
 
Read through Juggluco.nl and see the section describing how to calibrate Libre. Never needed it myself but it is there. Also section on Watches. AFAIK you do need your phone in Bluetooth range.
Also see GlucoDataHandler in GooglePlay ;)
 
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@searley Galaxy watches are not known for great battery life either. Probably get 36hs out of it with what I use it for? Before the next charge.[/QUOTE]

Yes I have a few galaxies, not had the ultra

I tend to move between iOS and android occasionally, whilst more restrictive I find that iOS just works better for me

Trouble is general tech has changed a lot, but batteries have not
 
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