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starting newcastle diet on 2nd jan

Atkins is a good idea, as it sould stop any unwanted BG spikes. I went back onto Atkins, but included more non-starchy veg than I have in the past.

I also ate less than I did prior to the shake diet. (Smaller portions - not becuase I felt I should, but because it took LESS to feel satisfied. This is gradually wearing off, though...)
 
Hi Patch,

My appetite has shrunk hugely on the ND I must say. I also hope that it lasts. I am going to have to really watch my portion control. Are you also on Insulin injections? Did you get off them on the diet? I cut out the short acting insulin but am still taking the long acting. I hope I will be able to continue that on Atkins.
 
As an appetite suppressant I previously found the acai berry tablets very good.

I'm thinking about going back onto them again at the end of my 8 weeks, as I already have some I bought previously but never used.

I've also previously been on the Atkins Diet and loved it and found it easy to stick to - especially bacon and eggs for breakfast :lol:

The one thing I do disagree with Atkins over is FAT. There is too much fat in the Atkins diet, so I will try and avoid the fatty foods
 
I'll just avoid Atkins compliant food groups that are full of fat - such as Peperami's that I used to eat loads of. They are Atkins complient and full of fat. I think the Americans refer to it as "beef jerky"

My body will still get sufficient fat from other foodstuffs as there is an element of fat in just about everything you eat
 
Pepperami & jerky are not the same - believe it or not, jerky is VERY low in fat (whereas pepperami is definitely NOT!!!!)

A lot of types of fat are not to be feared. It's cooking habits that are hard to change. Believe it or not, cooking in butter can be healthier than cooking in (some) vegetable oils...

Ardbeg said:
My body will still get sufficient fat from other foodstuffs as there is an element of fat in just about everything you eat
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True - and foods high in fat that were previously deemed unhealthy (stuff like Avacados, seeds, nuts, etc...) deliver plenty of "good" fat.
 
Anyone contemplating starting this diet should note that the nearest to Optifast in terms of ratios of ingredients is ASDA's Measure Up. The ratios are practically identical and as a bonus, you add the powder to water-not milk.
I tried the diet last Summer without knowing the exact details of Newcastle's trial and consequently unwittingly included semi-skimmed milk in coffee etc and fruit. I also replaced the third drink with a small piece of meat or fish (max 4oz) and vegetables.
At the start of the diet I consulted my doctor who agreed to monitor me on a fortnightly basis and agreed to prescribe me with Orlistat (Xenical) to offset the intake of any fat in the meal.
By the way, Orlistat is now being recognized as an aid to fighting Diabetes.
I came off the Metformin tablets and Simvastatin during the first week and at the end of the 13week diet my Hba1c result was 5.9 and my cholesterol levels were fine and I had lost 35lbs in weight.
Since then I have regained about 4lbs in weight mainly over the xmas period which I am now attempting to lose
I would not claim that in my case it has reversed the diabetes but it is certainly more manageable, the next Hba1c test will show whether I need to restart the Metformin albeit at a much lower level than previously. If this proves to be the case I might even undertake the Newcastle diet again but properly this time armed with their diet sheet
 
I tried the Measure Up - I won't use it again. It is like GLUE!

I'll stick to the Optislim shakes. Even the ones I didn't like were better than the Measure Ups...
 
Well Patch, I have to agree with the previous poster - I like the Asda shakes too.

They are tasty and easy to make and it's an added bonus they are made with water and not milk as I now keep a shaker, tub of Asda shake and a bottle of mineral water in the boot of my car; so I can have a shake whilst I am "on the road" with my job.

The only criticism I have of Asda, is that the choice is very limited - only strawberry, chocolate or caffe latte

I guess it's a case of "one man's meat is another man's poison" :wink:
 
i'll stick with slimfast tbh it seems to work well for me and when i have one i dont feel hungry at all

One thing i have noticed is due to a heavy cold last week i havent been able to hit gym as hard and my bgs are slightly higher for not training, when i say higher still between 5.5-6 two hours after food so still al lot better than 13.8 lol

I started back again at gym hard this week and have a five day run of cycling to work so thatll kick it off again and lower them again to previous levels.

Still feel so much better than when i started and all my numbers are excellent and still going down
 
I am an Asda shake fan too - I usually make them up with more water than recommended and use a hand blender to mix. I have the cafe latte every morning hot in a huge mug - helps with the cravings for milky tea and coffee!!

I am in my last week now - so far I have lost 1stone 10 pounds and have halved my medication. BG's are now around 5 all the time. This is the lowest my weight has been for nearly fifteen years - another stone and I will have finally lost my baby weight. Course, my "baby" is sixteen in six weeks time....

I will be low carbing when I finish the diet next week but will try not to eat too much fat as I am a wee bit scared of fat... I will probably trim visible fat off meat and stay with skimmed milk and low fat cottage cheese, but will have avocados and nuts and use olive oil - I may even have a bit of butter with my courgette spaghetti!!

I think I may do the diet again after Easter just to see if I get to a position when I can come off my medication altogether.

Please keep posting, Geordie - I would love to know how you are getting on after the diet. To be honest, reading your posts (and the other folks on the diet) have really kept me going and helped to keep me on the straight and narrow - I did not want to be the one that dropped out lol
 

What is the Newcastle Diet? It can only really be suitable if it is low in carbohydrate and high in proteins. Personally I would not wish to eat Slimfast or any other gimmicky products. Real food eaten regularly in the right combination is the best most natural way.
 

Just a point, low fat cottage cheese and skimmed milk are both high in carbs. It is actually far better, if possible, to have full fat milk and full fat cottage cheese. I love the taste of both and you only need eat small amounts. The lower fat products are almost always higher in carbs unfortunately.
 
:wave: I have also started the Newcastle Diet with great results so far, (2 weeks). I am off my insulin and glyclacide and only remain on Metformin. It has taken me until now to find and order Optifast shakes and products on-line. Thanks for the tip Ardberg ( the link to diet sheet )- now I can start in earnest. Can't wait. I was making it up just from articles I had read and feel better than I have done in years. Lost 5kg in 2 weeks. Fingers crossed that it continues have another 13 kgs to go to be within normal limits.....
Does anyone have any yummy recipe ideas to share. I make a veg chilli and chop the veg really small to mimic real chilli, using small amount of carrot, cauli, onion garlic and ginger, chilli of course , courgette and pepper. a dash of tomato puree (not sure if this is allowed). byee
 

Thanks, Camilla - I didn't think they were high carb, just higher in carbs than their full fat counter parts.... as i won't be going to the extremely low carb levels that some people manage quite happily on I understand that I should reduce the amount of fat I eat ie the more carbs, the less fat

For me personally, I will feel more comfortable eating lower fat products providing the fat has not been replaced by sugar or chemical nasties!! So I doubt I doubt I will be eating low fat fruit yoghurt nor will I be eating lower fat spreads - it will be greek yoghurt and butter for me, in moderation of course!!
 
The difference really is negligible with milk
100ml skimmed milk 5.g carb
100 ml semi skimmed milk 4.8g carb
100 ml whole milk 4.7g carb
for manufactured products like cottage cheese you need to read the labels, this idea that lower fat means higher carb is in practice often a myth.
100g morrison's low fat cottage cheese 5.0g carb
100g morrison's natural cottage cheese 6.9g carb
100g Tesco's low fat cottage cheese 4.6g carb
100g Tesco's natural cottage cheese 5.0g carb
100g Longley Farm, virtually fat free, cottage cheese 3.0g carb
 
hi all, we keep getting back to this argument that the diet is a fad or a gimmick all i can say is it works, its fairly easy to stick too, its easy to modify afterwards, and i will be continuing on it until ive lost the weight i want and my bgs are completely stable, it probably isnt a cure but its the easiest way to control the bgs ive found in nine years without medication and my results are being bettered by a lot of people on here, keep it up, dont knock it till uve tried it, if it isnt for you support those it works for, that is all lol
 

Thanks Phoenix - I was pretty sure that the carbs were not much higher in the lower fat versions!!
 
Thanks Geordie90 & forum for keeping me focussed on this diet my last day was today!!!!
No meds and I've gone from 17st 2lbs to 14st 9lbs with good control of sugars which is the main goal.

I'm off to bilston tomorrow to watch steve hackett play at the robin2 and I'm meeting my mates at a real ale pub.
I'll have a couple of cheeky pints but will go on to water, the best thing I've learnt from this experience is control and I hope to continue my healthy lifestyle for the rest of my life.

Once again thanks.
Eggle
 
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