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Stomachs ache, nausea Type2

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Cobby

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Location
Norfolk
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Hi, woke up this morning with stomach cramps and feeling of nausea, this has happened 2-3 times since being diagnosed early December as type 2. I don’t test as I was told I didn’t need to so don’t know what my sugar levels are. Does anyone else feel like this?
 
What are you eating? BTW, you must test so ignore that dumb advice
 
The stomach cramps may have nothing to do with diabetes.
On other hand, stomach pains are one of the symptoms of ketones which result from high BG.
As it has happened a few times, I don't think it should be ignored - talk to a doctor or a pharmacist. We can't diagnose online.
 
Cobby said:
Hi, woke up this morning with stomach cramps and feeling of nausea, this has happened 2-3 times since being diagnosed early December as type 2. I don’t test as I was told I didn’t need to so don’t know what my sugar levels are. Does anyone else feel like this?
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Are you taking metformin?
 
bulkbiker said:
Are you taking metformin?
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Yes I am twice a day with breakfast and evening meal. T sometimes makes me have loose bowel movements after taking the tablets. Do you think they have something to do with it. Have lost almost 12lb in weight by cutting out the usual fatty foods etc.
 
Cobby said:
Yes I am twice a day with breakfast and evening meal. T sometimes makes me have loose bowel movements after taking the tablets. Do you think they have something to do with it. Have lost almost 12lb in weight by cutting out the usual fatty foods etc.
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It made me very ill but it has been known to cause all sorts of digestive problems. Are you on the sow release version (which for some people has been reported to be kinder on the stomach - although it made me worse).
Well done on the weight loss although a lot of here fare better on cutting out carbs rather than fat (but that depends on where the fat comes from of course).
 
Mike D said:
What are you eating? BTW, you must test so ignore that dumb advice
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Typical day would be, special K flakes with semi skimmed milk and about a dozen blueberries, lunch home made butternut squash and ginger soup, dinner homemade cottage pie all cooked low fat with carrots swede, celery, onions and served with broccoli and cauliflower. Plus I did have 2 digestive biscuits. I do allow myself up to two slices of low carb bread if I make a sandwich. Thanks for your reply.
 
bulkbiker said:
It made me very ill but it has been known to cause all sorts of digestive problems. Are you on the sow release version (which for some people has been reported to be kinder on the stomach - although it made me worse).
Well done on the weight loss although a lot of here fare better on cutting out carbs rather than fat (but that depends on where the fat comes from of course).
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Thanks for your reply. Will make appointment with my dr to discuss. Have been trying out some low carb recipes that I found on the diabetes site so see how we go.
 
Cobby said:
Typical day would be, special K flakes with semi skimmed milk and about a dozen blueberries, lunch home made butternut squash and ginger soup, dinner homemade cottage pie all cooked low fat with carrots swede, celery, onions and served with broccoli and cauliflower. Plus I did have 2 digestive biscuits. I do allow myself up to two slices of low carb bread if I make a sandwich. Thanks for your reply.
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Find something to replace the special K if you could. Everything else stacks up but please test. It is a "must do" For someone so new to T2, I'm amazed to what you've done thus far
 
Mike D said:
Find something to replace the special K if you could. Everything else stacks up but please test. It is a "must do" For someone so new to T2, I'm amazed to what you've done thus far
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Thanks Mike D any ideas on what to replace the cereal with? I do scrambled egg, or egg, baco, mushroom sometimes, but must admit I like my cereal and it did say in the foods you could eat that special K what the lowest. The thing what gets me is the fact they won’t give me a testing kit, guess I will have to bite the bullet and buy one. You tend to believe what your diabetic nurse tells you, got to admit that I do feel let down by them.
Cheers Cobby
 
Cobby said:
Thanks Mike D any ideas on what to replace the cereal with? I do scrambled egg, or egg, baco, mushroom sometimes, but must admit I like my cereal and it did say in the foods you could eat that special K what the lowest. The thing what gets me is the fact they won’t give me a testing kit, guess I will have to bite the bullet and buy one. You tend to believe what your diabetic nurse tells you, got to admit that I do feel let down by them.
Cheers Cobby
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Got it in one :) ... Really high meat content sausage with all that wouldn't hurt either but eggs and bacon are a great start to the day. Cereals are high in carbs so dump them

Buy a meter, get some strips and test so you know how foods react to your sugars. Some of your nurses and doctors get it (I'm Australian) but many simply do not. You ain't the first to get some poor advice.

Stay with us and you'll learn a lot more from those who live with it. I know what I know from the best and here they stand.
 
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I'm afraid that going low fat is far less help for most diabetics than going low carb - you can't cope with carbs - it is that simple, so removing high carb foods, dense starches, and sweet fruits like blueberries will make a massive impact on your BG levels - if you are lucky.

Blueberries are twice the carbs of most berries, bread is bad news, even the so called low carb breads are likely to cause spikes as they are processed grain, like the biscuits. Eating low fat can lead to stagnation in the gall bladder, and gall stones forming - so when you do need to have some bile in your gut and there is an obstruction it can be very painful and lead to the need for an operation.

In younger days I could lose a Kg per day by going really low carb, so it is the obvious way for me to lose weight - but that increases my cholesterol as it is involved in transporting fats.
 
Do buy yourself a meter, it is the only way of finding out which foods are causing your blood glucose to rise. Test before a meal and two hours after and keep a food diary of what you are eating. If the second test is more than 2 higher than the first then there is something in that meal that you can no longer tolerate. It is a pain to start with but you soon find a pattern and if you test each meal twice it cuts out various other factors. You may find that grains cause your bg to rise more than you like, above ground vege are the way to go with a few exceptions that need care. I have unsweetened Greek yoghurt with a few berries for a quick breakfast, if I go away then it is eggs and a slice of bacon, be careful though some bacons have sugar added as part of the curing process as does some smoked salmon. Test, test and test again is the only way to know.
The other thing I found helpful was to keep a note of my body measurements, I could see the figures coming down even on those weeks when the weight stayed the same. Don't ask me how that works but it did and it kept me going when I was feeling down.
 
Alison Campbell said:
@Cobby, there are lower carb options than special k and as many have higher blood sugar levels first thing this is important. This may give you some ideas

https://www.ditchthecarbs.com/23-easy-low-carb-breakfast-ideas/

I think Aldi do a low carb muesli/granola, @Boo1979 do you buy this?
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Yes Aldi do a Paleo muesli - nothing like traditional muesli but its low carb with lots of nuts and seeds and has v little impact on my sugars
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/calories/aldi-foodie-market-nutty-paleo-muesli-563528618
 
I have had the same symptoms and was diagnosed early December also. I found if I took metformin after a meal this was better. I was also told it was too early to be testing so went out and bought my own, good thing because my sugars are usually higher than I'd like. I am slowly learning which foods make my sugars higher, and as I was a carb lover I'm trying to remain very strict with myself. Well done you on the food front.
 
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