Swine Flu - Are Diabetics At Risk ??

[Jonnypneumonic]

Hi, there has been much on the TV / Radio about this impending Pandemic and many of the comments have said that those with Diabetes, Heart Issues, Ineffective Immune Systems, The very Young and The Old (which covers about everybody i think) are more at risk of catching this.

They have also said that the TamiFlu antivirals taken with an antibiotic can bes used as a preventative measure to try and block this infection.

Q: Is this correct, are we more at risk, would this medication help - if so how do we go about getting a script for it?

Personally i'm uncontrolled type 2+, seem to catch all the colds / flu's on the go and live in an area where Swine flu has multiple suspected cases.

 

[cugila]

Hi johnyp

A Diabetic is always at risk from all the things a non-Diabetic would just shrug off.

That's why prevention and taking simple precautions is always the best way forward.
Have you had your Flu and Pneumo (age may be criteria for this one) jabs. They are available for free to all at risk groups like Diabetics. Not sure that this would prevent what you are asking about though. There we are in the lap of the gods, and the scientists.

Hope this helps.
Ken

 

[Graham1441]

It seems to me that we diabetics are at more risk and even if any of us did catch this flu no chemist has any supplys of Tamiflu.
I saw yesterday that even with a prescription one suplyier is charging £50, profit from the sic or what.
Nice easy way to get rid of an expencive drain on the NHS, us .
Someone tell me i`m wrong, please.
Graham 1441, :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :twisted:

 

[IanD]

The problem seems to be related to industrial farming & consequent pollution. Intensive pork production was so polluting in USA that they set up factory farms in Mexico producing vast quantities of effluent "enriched" with chemicals & corpses, etc.

The link is NOT for the squeamish. Read on & the same criminals are making East European pork production for efficient .... And if you are vegetarian, beware of "naturally fertilized" produce.

Is swine flu different in kind????

How "The NAFTA Flu" Exploded
[North America Free Trade Area.]

Wednesday 29 April 2009

by: Al Giordano | Visit article original @ Narco News


Smithfield farms fled US environmental laws to open a gigantic pig farm in Mexico, and all we Got was this lousy swine flu.

US and Mexico authorities claim that neither knew about the "swine flu" outbreak until April 24. But after hundreds of residents of a town in Veracruz, Mexico, came down with its symptoms, the story had already hit the Mexican national press by April 5. The daily La Jornada reported:

"Clouds of flies emanate from the rusty lagoons where the Carroll Ranches business tosses the fecal wastes of its pig farms, and the open-air contamination is already generating an epidemic of respiratory infections in the town of La Gloria, in the Perote Valley, according to Town Administrator Bertha Crisóstomo López."

The town has 3,000 inhabitants, hundreds of whom reported severe flu symptoms in March.

 

[IanD]

Re: Swine Flu - Tom Lehrer's viewpoint.

If you visit American city

If you visit American city
You will find it very pretty
Just two things of which you must beware
Don't drink the water and don't breathe the air
/ C G / - C / - F / C GC /

Pollution, pollution
They got smog and sewage and mud
Turn on your tap
And get hot and cold running crud

/ Am G / F E / F C / G C /

See the halibuts and the sturgeons
Being wiped out by detergeons
Fish gotta swim and birds gotta fly
But they don't last long if they try

Pollution, pollution
You can use the latest toothpaste
And then rinse your mouth
With industrial waste

Just go out for a breath of air
And you'll be ready for Medicare
The city streets are really quite a thrill
If the hoods don't get you, the monoxide will

Pollution, pollution
Wear a gas mask and a veil
Then you can breathe
Long as you don't inhale

Lots of things there that you can drink
But stay away from the kitchen sink
The breakfast garbage that you throw in to the bay
They drink as lunch in San José

So go to the city
See the crazy people there
Like lambs to the slaughter
They're drinking the water
And breathing, cough, the air.

 

[lilibet]

I worry more now about this stuff than I ever did before dx

The Tamiflu will be free to us, as all px are. Im sure NHS would have a fit if they thought it was going for £50 though nothing would surprise me.

I believe there's an oinkment in production though to help :lol:

 

[Graham1441]

Had a cold for a week and been felling very weeeeeeeeek weeeeeeeeeek weeeeeeeeeek :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

 

[TheTartanPimpernel]

Number and bullet come to mind.

Relax and lets see how far it does or does not not develop, with or without the media hype.

Worry and we will eventually die. Relax and ,equally, we will all eventually die - when the bullet has our number.

If its a real threat then everyone is at risk whether diabetic or not. Thinks...... I will have a glass of red.

 

[viv1969]

To say no chemists have supplies of Tamiflu is wildly inacurate and irresponsible. I had a prescription filled for it on Tuesday.

Swine influenza does not derive purely from swine. The 2009 H1N1 virus is a reassortment of swine, human and avian genes.

 

[Trinkwasser]

To say no chemists have supplies of Tamiflu is wildly inacurate and irresponsible. I had a prescription filled for it on Tuesday.

Swine influenza does not derive purely from swine. The 2009 H1N1 virus is a reassortment of swine, human and avian genes.

They mostly all are which is why they will take you to a tweetment centre and give you oinkment

seriously though, this one appears to be a tad weird in that it seems to be comparatively mild everywhere it has landed except Mexico. Maybe it has evolved rapidly in that the strains that killed people didn;t get transmitted as far as milder variants which just annoy?

 

[viv1969]

Or maybe the media whipped everyone into a panicked frenzy on a slow news week.

Seriously, even in the so called 'Hot Zone' in Mexico there have only been 44 confirmed deaths with a little over 1200 cases in total. This virus may have no vaccine, but it responds very well to anti viral treatment.

Makes me really mad because you don't hear everyone screaming over the thousands of people who contract malaria on thier annual holidays though thier own stupidity, simply because they can't be ***** to take the anti-malarial drugs that they should, for as long as they should.

 

[carefixer]

In my view the risk from the vaccine may be greater. During the last non-pandemic I alerted the European Medicines Agency in London to the fact that the GSK vaccine as supplied to the UK contained elevated levels of squalene. In fact the levels of squalene were elevated in excess of one-million fold. The EMA told me it was not their department but are now investigating a number of cases of narcolepsy in children in Sweden who had taken the vaccine. This in my view is likely to be just the start.

Squalene is used as an adjuvant and seems likely to be behind Gulf War Syndrome as 95% of syndrome victims had antibodies to squalene compared to 0% in those who did not receive the vaccines.

On the positive side of things the pharmaceutical companies will make loads of moola if you get sick so its not all bad news.

Its worth checking out how effective these vaccines are at preventing or limiting the viruses at which they are targeted for yourself. They are next to useless

Carefixer

 

[Anonymous]

This Topic is locked as it is about the 2009 Swine Flu vaccine. The last post was in May 2009.

There is a new related Topic about the 2010 Vaccine which is open for discussion.

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