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feraljohn

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I am a T2, diagnosed 8 years ago. 73 years old. Have Hypertension, Coronary artery disease, have had 5 coronary artery bypass grafts, and I recently graduated to using Metformin having previously been diet controlled. Can anyone tell me which fruits are least likely to cause blood glucose spikes?
 

Brunneria

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Hi and welcome!

Generally, the sweeter the fruit, the more sugar (fruit sugar is called fructose) it has.

So tropical sweet fruits are usually not good for type 2 diabetics, while northern sharper fruits like berries are better. Although different people can have different fruit tolerances, which can be tested using a glucometer.

I will tag in @daisy1 who has a welcome pack that gives all sorts of info you may find useful. :)
 
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@feraljohn

Hello John and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 

Pinkorchid

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I am a T2, diagnosed 8 years ago. 73 years old. Have Hypertension, Coronary artery disease, have had 5 coronary artery bypass grafts, and I recently graduated to using Metformin having previously been diet controlled. Can anyone tell me which fruits are least likely to cause blood glucose spikes?
You only ask about fruit so I take it that whatever diet you keep to has worked for you for 8 years and that you do not have very high blood glucose levels as the doctor has only put you on Metformin so maybe a bit of a tweak with the fruit is all you need. Some eat apples pears plums and berries ok and leave out the tropical fruits
 

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Hello and welcome to the forum. As has been said, the fruits that are tolerated by a lot of those with Type 2 Diabetes are berries such as strawberries and blackberries. Blueberries are problematic for some people but not others so a glucometer would show you which fruit or any other foodstuff you react well to.
It would be good to remember that there is nothing in fruit that can't be had from above ground vegetables.
 

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Blueberries are the highest carb of all the fruits called berries, so if you can eat 2 oz of blueberries you could have 4 oz of strawberries for the same 'hit' of carbs - I know which one I'd rather eat.
When starting out I would wait to check my BG after dinner to see if I could have, or still wanted to eat dessert later. It seemed to work for my management.
 

feraljohn

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Thanks for the help guys, it is much appreciated.
So far I am learning more from this site than I have done over the last 8 years from my local diabetes educators in NSW Australia.
 
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Thanks for the help guys, it is much appreciated.
So far I am learning more from this site than I have done over the last 8 years from my local diabetes educators in NSW Australia.

Welcome from a fellow New South Welshman. I agree the diabetic education is not exactly wonderful. I would encourage the educators to just pass a slip of paper with a link to this site to all newly diagnosed unfortunates.

Have fun,
Glenn